To clarify, Emacspeak *does* not have functionality present in
EMMS. I use EMMS for many things, which is why
Emacspeak speech-enables EMMS via emacspeak-emms
>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Tim> Essentially EMMS is a wrapper around a media
Tim> player. However, it has some nice features for managing
Tim> your media, playlists, audio streams etc, so its a bit
Tim> more than just a wrapper. EMMS stands for emacs
Tim> multi-media system, so really it tries to be a cmplete
Tim> solution for managing and accessing multimedia content.
Tim>
Tim> Of course, emacspeak has much the same functionality,
Tim> but as I don't always just use emacspeak, I like to have
Tim> my functionality packaged so that I'm not too dependent
Tim> on just one interface solution.
Tim>
Tim> Tim
Tim>
Tim>
Tim> Steve Holmes writes:
>> Hey, what more can you tell us about emms? Is it a wrapper
>> to launch mplayer or is it a complete player unto itself?
>> Mplayer is so powerful natively because it can play nearly
>> any media you throw at it.
>>
>> >-----Original Message----- >From: Tim Cross
>> [mailto:tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Sunday, August 26,
>> 2007 4:49 AM >To: Kalyan Mukherjea >Cc: Emacspeak
>> MailingList >Subject: Re:Playing music and a tailpiece
>> >
>> >
>> >Kalyan,
>> >
>> >just a couple of tips.
>> >
>> >firstly, rebooting should always be the absolutely last
>> resort. A reboot is >like using a bazooka to hunt rabbits.
>> >
>> >Second, when you use C-e ; you are put into a special
>> mplayer interactive >buffer, wehre you can do things like
>> change volume, skip forward, skip >back, speedup, slow
>> down, load another media resource and many other
>> >things. Perhaps, the most important character for you is
>> q. This will quit >the mode and stop mplayer.
>> >
>> >I do find there is a lot of spoken text initially -
>> diagnostic output from >mplayer. I suspect I can stop this
>> by passing a 'quiet switch to mplayer, >but I've not
>> bothered to look into it. To be honest, I use emms rather
>> than >the emacspeak media stuff. This is for no other
>> reason than I started using >emms first and because I
>> prefer to try an use other packages to do things >like
>> this rather than putting absolutely everything into
>> emacspeak - thats >just a personal preference. It also
>> means that on occasion, when emacspeak >is causing me
>> problems, I can switch to something else, like
>> >speech-dispatcher with minimal loss of functionality.
>> >
>> >The noise you are hearing when you first start playing a
>> bit of media is >possibly the result of interaction
>> between emacspeak speech, the media >content and how your
>> ALSA soundcard is configured. I still find the ALSA >stuff
>> less than intuitive - only a few weeks ago, I figured out
>> the reason >my multi-channel soundcard wasn't working
>> correctly was because only the >last of the three channels
>> it provided actually supported multiple sound >sources -
>> once I configured my .asoundrc file to use the 3rd channel
>> rather >than the first, everything has worked fine.
>> >
>> >Finally, I wonder why you are running X if your totally
>> blind? In such a >situation, you really using resources
>> for no gain. performance would >probably improve if you
>> aren't running an X server. Try playing around in >the
>> console and if yo find it works well, consider not running
>> X (there are >several ways of doing this - probably the
>> easiest is booting into a non-X >runlevel. Not sure which
>> runlevel that would be with fedora these days.
>> >
>> >Oh, and I also think Raman has done a lot of work on the
>> media stuff since >version 25. An upgrade may improve
>> things for you.
>> >
>> >Tim >Kalyan Mukherjea writes:
>> > >
>> > > I had sent the following in response to the discussion
>> between Steve > > and Raman > > as a "Reply to all" from a
>> VM buffer containing Raman's letter. It > > bounced back
>> from Raman's ISP saying that my letter was spam! This is >
>> > just to notify Raman since I could not go to the
>> recommended site to > > correct their impression about my
>> letter.
>> > >
>> > > My original letter follows > > and the bounceing
>> message after my letter and a row of *'s.
>> > >
>> > > Hi List, > > T. V. Raman writes:
>> > >
>> > > > I suggest you investigate things before assuming
>> things. C-e; on > > > a dired-line plays the file under
>> point.
>> > >
>> > > I have never been able to use the `C-e ;' or `C-e :'
>> keychords > > successfully! > > I have realplay and
>> mplayer installed. But doing either of these > > keychords
>> does not have the desired effect.
>> > >
>> > > I play mp3 files by opening a terminal (M-x term) > >
>> cd-ing to the directory where I keep my music files
>> (~/music/) > > then typing mplayer foo.mp3 > > then C-e d
>> q and then press RET.
>> > >
>> > > The mp3 files play and all the key commands of mplayer
>> can be used.
>> > >
>> > > If I do not do `C-e d q' before pressing RET there is
>> a lot of > > gurgling noises for a few seconds and then
>> silence. The `term' buffer > > is filled with mplayer
>> announcements about how it was compiled etc.
>> > >
>> > > I tried `C-e ;' on a dired buffer showing the mp3
>> files in ~/music/ > > and as soon as I typed the keychord
>> `C-e ;' there was a very loud > > rangling (cross between
>> rattling and ringing) noise and then the > > music started
>> playing. The quality is much better than on the terminal >
>> > but the rangling does not stop. Emacspeak stops
>> responding and if I > > quit X using Alt+Ctrl+Backspace
>> thenthe music stops and I can hear the > > mplayer
>> announcements going on. Rebooting is the only way to stop
>> > > this.
>> > >
>> > > What is going on?
>> > >
>> > > My system is running FC 3 with Emacs -21 and
>> Emacspeak-25.0 revision > > 4289 4293.
>> > >
>> > > Any help will be appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers. > > Kalyan
>> > > ******************************************************************
>> > >
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>> 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Kalyan Mukherjea
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>> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:33:25 +0530 > > To: raman@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Cc: steve@xxxxxxxxxxx, > > emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: Playing Music from Dired > > In-Reply-To:
>> <18126.56738.756489.144838@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >
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>> <18126.56738.756489.144838@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >
>> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1
>> > >
>> > > Hi List, > > T. V. Raman writes:
>> > >
>> > > > I suggest you investigate things before assuming
>> things. C-e; on > > > a dired-line plays the file under
>> point.
>> > >
>> > > I have never been able to use the `C-e ;' or `C-e :'
>> keychords > > successfully! > > I have realplay and
>> mplayer installed. But doing either of these > > keychords
>> does not have the desired effect.
>> > >
>> > > ----- Message truncated -----
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >
>> >--
>> >Tim Cross >tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
>> manage what they >understand and those who do not
>> understand what they manage.
>> >
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Tim>
Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
Tim> understand what they manage.
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