pulseaudio if there or not should not be preventing use of the
audio device --I suspect FC8 is just misconfigured by default.
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Rayner <peter.rayner@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Peter> Janina Sajka writes:
>> Will Walker may correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't
>> believe Orca does anything with pulse audio. Rather, I
>> think pulseaudio is being introduced by
>> distributions. Specifically, I know for a fact that
>> Fedora/Red Hat has moved to it in Fedora 8. In fact it's a
>> bit of a problem as implemented in F-8, because it isn't
>> launched until a gui login, and there's no audio access
>> before that. And, after the login, there's still no root
>> level access to audio--ever. I'm suggesting people remove
>> it for now on F-8 installations.
Peter> As a datapoint, I followed these instructions but
Peter> reinstalled it later as a first look at why orca
Peter> wasn't speaking. emacspeak on a virtual console was
Peter> fine under either condition and under an initial
Peter> runlevel of 3 or 5. cheers Peter
Peter>
>> Janina
>>
>> T. V. Raman writes:
>>> you dont need to even set up a .asoundrc on things like
>>> dapper I believe post alsa 1.10, dmix is configured by
>>> default correctly. Why orca chose to add one more layer
>>> with pulseaudio -- or why pulseaudio refuses to work with
>>> Alsa are all mysteries I've not delved into -- but I do
>>> run orca and emacspeak on my laptop on the rare occasions
>>> that I start orca -- and they do both work happily with
>>> the emacspeak tts server.
>>>
>>> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Tim> It does work and it works quite well once you get the
Tim> .asoundrc file sorted. This can be a bit tricky. For
Tim> example, I found that the reason I couldn't get my
Tim> soundcard to work was because it was a multi channel
Tim> card and you had to use a specific device (in my case
Tim> device 3) in order for the dmix plugin to work. Prior to
Tim> working this out, I defined an 'emacspeak' device in my
Tim> asoundrc file and then modified the sources to use that
Tim> as the device rather than default. This had been the
Tim> only way I could get outloud to work and still be able
Tim> to play other sound sources.
Tim>
Tim> What type of sound card do you have? Maybe someone else
Tim> has a working .asoundrc file for that type of card?
Tim>
Tim> Tim
Tim>
Tim>
Tim>
Tim> getting mixing to work that th epro T. V. Raman writes:
>>> >> Alsa dmix works --- believe in it.
>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> "bart" == bart <bart@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
bart> Yes, but what pulseaudio does is mix sound streams. So
bart> theoretically I could have two applications speaking at
bart> the same time. Although alsa's dmix is meant to do
bart> this as well. In practice it has never worked for me,
bart> it does with some applications and not others even
bart> though they are all using alsa. Regards
bart>
bart> Bart
bart>
bart> Janina Sajka writes:
>>> >> >> Unless I misunderstand it, it's not an either or >>
>>> >> situation. I don't believe pulseaudio provides drivers
>>> for >> >> audio hardware. Rather, it's for managing user
>>> and >> >> application access.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The one use case on their site is about two people,
>>> a >> >> couple, logging in and out of the desktop without
>>> >> issues >> of audio access. Woefully insufficient, of
>>> >> course. We''' >> have to expand their thinking, I
>>> suspect.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Janina
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> bart@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:> Hi list,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Does anyone know what would be involved in
>>> getting >> the >> outloud speech server to use pulseaudio
>>> instead of >> alsa >> directly?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > If this was done am I correct in assuming that >>
>>> emacspeak >> would be able to run along side orca if they
>>> >> are both >> using pulseaudio?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Has anyone already thought about this?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Regards
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Bart
>>> >> >> >
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>>> >> >> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; >>
>>> sip:janina@xxxxxxxxxxx >> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC
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>>> >>
>>> >>
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>> --
>> Tim Cross tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
Tim>
Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
Tim> understand what they manage.
Tim>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>>
>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC
>> http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
>>
>> Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in
>> the U.S. and Canada Learn more at
>> http://ScreenlessPhone.Com
>>
>> Chair, Open Accessibility janina@xxxxxxxxxxx Linux Foundation
>> http://a11y.org
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