Re: [emacspeak The Complete Audio Desktop] Leveraging Web 2.0 Design Patterns For...

["T. V. Raman" <raman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

that's interesting, I wasn't aware of the situation. OReilly
explicitly stopped their earlier informal arrangement saying
"bookshare will handle it"

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Tim> Hi Raman, just thought I'd mention that bookshare isn't
    Tim> that useful to non US residents. Unless it has changed
    Tim> since the last time I looked, non-US residents can only
    Tim> get access to material that is past copyright (i.e. old
    Tim> classics) and some others with licenses etc that wil
    Tim> allow it, such as creative commons.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Unfortunately, the absolutely wonderful support we use
    Tim> to get from O'Reilly doesn't seem to exist anymore where
    Tim> we could get electronic text versions just by asking -
    Tim> at least not for me. All the e-mails I've sent over the
    Tim> last few years have not been responded to at all - not
    Tim> even to tell me the previous arrangement is no longer
    Tim> available. I have even tried from multiple different
    Tim> addresses in case my address was being
    Tim> blocked/blacklisted etc. I even tried an e-mail directly
    Tim> to Tim O'Reilly, but got no response. My guess is that
    Tim> now they hav Safari, they want us to use that, which is
    Tim> what I've been doing, but its not exactly cheap. They do
    Tim> have a special portal that is supposed to be more
    Tim> accessible than their main one, but to be honest, I've
    Tim> found them both pretty difficult to access from Linux
    Tim> and generally end up using window-eyes amd Internet
    Tim> Explorer (sssh, don't tell anyone). I tend to use the
    Tim> PDF tokens you get and download PDF chapters of the
    Tim> books I'm interested in. I then find converting them to
    Tim> text and reading from within emacs is not too bad once
    Tim> you do a bit of clean-up to remove the copyright and
    Tim> user details O'Reilly adds as page footers to the PDF.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Still, its a pity the old arrangement is no longer
    Tim> available. I use to very much praise O'Reilly for their
    Tim> support and even purchased things like the CD bookshelf
    Tim> series to provide some support. I guess now they are
    Tim> just geting too big and have lost that little extra
    Tim> touch.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Tim
    >> Jason,
    >> 
    >> O'Reilly has a couple of good JS references, any one of
    >> them will do -- and they're all available from bookshare.
    >> 
    >> >>>>> "Jason" == Jason White <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Jason> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 03:30:13PM -0700, T. V. Raman
    Jason> wrote:
    >> >> We will base this session on project >>
    >> Google-AxsJAX. Developers should know JavaScript, but >>
    >> session doesn't require deep AJAX hackery.
    Jason> 
    Jason> With apologies to Raman and others for the off-topic
    Jason> question: What is the best, accessible, book or
    Jason> tutorial on Javascript that I can add to my admittedly
    Jason> already long reading list?
    Jason> 
    Jason> I have already followed Raman's earlier blog post and
    Jason> installed MozRepl; I recommend it to other Emacspeak
    Jason> users interested in Javascript and Firefox.
    Jason> Realistically, I'm not sure when I'll find time for
    Jason> the reading, but since Javascript is going to be such
    Jason> a large part of Web accessibility henceforth, it's
    Jason> time to start learning.
    Jason> 
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