Re: Emacs 23: next-line and previous-line

["Tim Cross" <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Possibly an inconvenient configuration change for emacspeak users, but
likely a useful configuration change for sighted users. However, I think
again shows the advantages of emacs. Obtaining the old behavior is a simple
config option. Other systems would likely have changed and failed to
provide a way to get the old behavior back.

Tim

Steve Holmes writes:
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 > I wondered if it came down to that.  My display is 128 chars wide so
 > the wrapping happens less often.  I think I will be putting in that
 > option as well.  It does seem like a bad idea to have changed this
 > behavior.
 > 
 > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:14:09PM +1100, Tim Cross wrote:
 > > 
 > > Essentially, the difference is that when a long line wraps, the cursor
 > > won't just jump to the next 'real' line when you move down. Instead, it
 > > will move to the second wrapped section of the line you were already
 > > on. The downside from an emacspeak perspective is that the whole line gets
 > > read again. . The old behavior would have been for emacs to move to the
 > > second real line regardless of how many wrapped lines the first line
 > > created. 
 > > 
 > > To answer your specific question, if the line does not wrap, there is no
 > > issue. whether th eline wraps depends on how wide your display is. So, as
 > > long as your display is wider than 80 characters, you won't notice anything
 > > for lines up to 80 characters long. 
 > > 
 > > My experienced has been that some mail messages can be an issue as some
 > > mailers don't put hard line breaks. Essentially, the message is just one
 > > long line. Depending on your mail client and its configuration, you can run
 > > into issues, but easily fixed as pointed out by Raman.
 > > 
 > > Tim
 > > 
 > > Steve Holmes writes:
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 > >  > I had no idea there had been a change; guess that shows how
 > >  > unobservant I can be.  If the lines are shorter than 80 chars, does
 > >  > emacs behave more like the past?
 > >  > 
 > >  > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:32:29AM +0530, Kalyan Mukherjea wrote:
 > >  > > Hi Raman and list,
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > You recommend using Customize to set  line-move-visual to mil.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > I find the Customize interface difficult to use, perhaps because I use
 > >  > > the somewhat primitive eflite as my DTK_PROGRAM. 
 > >  > > Would it be okay to manually put in  the following  line in my
 > >  > > ~/.emacs:
 > >  > > (setq line-move-visual nil)
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > I have a section in my .emacs specifically for emacspeak related
 > >  > > settings. Putting it there seems to be harmless but then I'm not an
 > >  > > expert!
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Cheers.
 > >  > > Kalyan
 > >  > > 
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 > > -- 
 > > Tim Cross
 > > tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
 > > 
 > > There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they 
 > > understand and those who do not understand what they manage.
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 > > Tim Cross
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 > > There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they 
 > > understand and those who do not understand what they manage.
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-- 
Tim Cross
tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx

There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they 
understand and those who do not understand what they manage.
-- 
Tim Cross
tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx

There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they 
understand and those who do not understand what they manage.

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