Re: Tabulation problem, possibly a mac speech server bug

["T. V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bart,
You're close to getting to the bottom of the calendar problem:-)

tts-with-punctuations was originally added to selectively use
punct-some for instance even if you had all puncutations turned
on. It's probably okay to get rid of it if it's causing major
issues 
>>>>> "Bart" == Bart Bunting <bart@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Bart> Raman, This fixes the issue for me! Thanks.
    Bart> 
    Bart> I'm taking a look into the calendar issue I also
    Bart> reported.
    Bart> 
    Bart> It appears to be different though to the tabulation
    Bart> one. The function emacspeak-calendar-speak-date uses
    Bart> dtk-speak but it's wrapped in a call to
    Bart> tts-with-punctuations 'some.
    Bart> 
    Bart> This is what is causing my issue. Simply commenting
    Bart> this out and arrowing in the calendar works without
    Bart> delay. Of course it does so without setting the
    Bart> punctuation mode to some.
    Bart> 
    Bart> tts-with-punctuations appears to be a macro that saves
    Bart> the current punctuation level, sets level to some then
    Bart> calls dtk-force to have the speech server to execute
    Bart> the change punctuation. Then executes the body and
    Bart> restores the original punctuation setting.
    Bart> 
    Bart> I haven't gotten to the bottom of it but the issue is
    Bart> clearly to do with the setting of the punctuation. I
    Bart> can prove this by the fact that if you are in the
    Bart> calendar with punctuation mode set to some then
    Bart> everything works as expected. In this cace
    Bart> tts-with-punctuations is not setting the punctuation
    Bart> because it checks and finds the level is already some
    Bart> so does nothing.
    Bart> 
    Bart> I can try and dig a bit deeper but that's what I've
    Bart> found so far.
    Bart> 
    Bart> Kind regards Bart
    Bart> 
    Bart> "T. V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Bart> 
    >> David,
    >> 
    >> I've checked in a change to table-ui -- rather than
    >> calling function message to echo what was spoken in the
    >> message area, I switched it to call dtk-speak directly --
    >> this appears to fix the problem -- or at least makes it
    >> harder to reproduce.
    >> 
    >> Please check what you see the elisp layer producing; we
    >> may well have a deeper bug -- in which case it must be a
    >> really old,long-standing bug that is probably getting
    >> tickled now that things are a lot faster than when this
    >> code was originally written.
    >>>>>>> "David" == David Tseng <davidtseng@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    David> This looks to be an issue on the elisp side. Arrowing
    David> quickly around your example tablebetween 1 and 2, I
    David> never receive a "1" in any form and there's also a
    David> suspicious stop sent immediately after the first
    David> utterance: gotline: s tts_sync_state all 0 0 1 500 q {
    David> [{voice alex}] } q {2 } d d tts_set_punctuations none
    David> d end
    David> 
    David> gotline: tts_set_punctuations all s tts_sync_state all
    David> 0 0 1 500 end
    David> 
    David> gotline: q { [{voice alex}] } q {2 } d d
    David> tts_set_punctuations none d end
    David> 
    David> 
    David> At Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:51:52 +1100, Bart Bunting
    David> wrote:
    David> 
    >> >> 
    >> >> Hi everyone,
    >> >> 
    >> >> I'm having some troubles with >>
    >> emacspeak-table-display-table-in-region and I'm not sure
    >> >> if it is actualy a speech server bug/issue. or
    >> something >> else. I am hopeing that someone else using
    >> the mac server >> can verify this behaviour and someone
    >> who is using another >> speech server can confirm if it
    >> happens for them or not?
    >> >> 
    >> >> The simptoms are that when you have used c-e tab to >>
    >> tabulate a region and you arrow around roughly every >>
    >> second or so movement is not spoken.
    >> >> 
    >> >> However if you arrow very slowly, waiting for speech to
    >> >> complete each time and then a bit more, everything gets
    >> >> spoken.
    >> >> 
    >> >> The only other place I've ever noticed something
    >> similar >> is when using the calendar. I never got to the
    >> bottom of >> that issue, but with mac speech server speech
    >> doesn't stop >> as expected.
    >> >> 
    >> >> Any help in verifying where this is happening would be
    >> >> appreciated.
    >> >> 
    >> >> I am also running the latest version of the mac server
    >> >> from svn.
    >> >> 
    >> >> 
    >> >> Here is a very simple table to test with but anything
    >> will >> work:
    >> >> 
    >> >> 1 test 2 this 3 table 4 to 5 see 6 if 7 it works
    >> >> 
    >> >> 
    >> >> Kind regards
    >> >> 
    >> >> Bart
    >> >> -- 
    >> >> 
    >> >> 
    >> >> Kind regards
    >> >> 
    >> >> Bart
    >> >> 
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    >> Best Regards, --raman
    Bart> Bart --
    Bart> 
    Bart> 
    Bart> Kind regards
    Bart> 
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