Re: Fixing Broken Info Pages was Emacspeak 37 Fails to Build on ArchLinux

[Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I just looked at the commit logs for a fresh checkout (today) and see there are commits relating to cleanup, typo fixes and spelling fixes for the emacspeak documents right up until today. this makes me think Raman is actively working on stuff in this area right now, so I would run regular svn updates to ensure your working on current head and not fixing stuff already fixed.

Tim

On 29 March 2013 02:43, Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

OK, I can patch against the SVN version.  I get these same errors with
both version 37 and latest SVN or at least SVN of a week or so ago.  I
haven't messed further with this since this thread got under way.

On 3/27/13, Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OK. One thing to do would be ensure you are working on the latest SVN
> version. This will make it easier for Raman to add your patches, but more
> importantly, ensure your not fixing bugs that ahve already been fixed.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> On 27 March 2013 16:50, Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I don't remember their exact text now but it sounded like index levels
>> being messed up or some such.  Besides, Make errored out and the only way
>> I
>> was able to get things to move on was to use the '-i ' option and even
>> with
>> that, the thing only built one .info file and that was the emacspeak
>> introduction.  emacspeak.info did not even get built.  This all occured
>> in that one make step.  That's why I'm pointing fingers at this part of
>> the
>> process.  Something is broken for sure.
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Tim Cross" <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Just curious. If the messages are not marked as an error or warning,
>> what makes
>> > you concerned about them and why do you believe they need to be
>> > 'fixed'?
>> >
>> > Just wondering if the problem is really about bad texinfo or is it
>> something to
>> > do with a change in how make-install works.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve Holmes writes:
>> >> My first runs over the list didn't see the word, "error" but without
>> >> the '-i' option, Make throws the elivated return code and terminates
>> >> package building.  the first two messages don't say Warning or error
>> >> so I'm after them first.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 09:11:55AM +1100, Tim Cross wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Raman normally requests patches go to the list.
>> >>>
>> >>> Note that I'm not sure how much you need to worry about the warnings.
>> These are
>> >>> just that, warnings and should not affect creation/compilation of the
>> info
>> >>> files. I didn't actually see any 'errors' in the list, but only ran
>> over it
>> >>> quickly, so must have missed them. The warnings I did see looked
>> harmless and
>> >>> were just alerts regarding possible inconsistencies - just like the
>> warnings
>> >>> in compiling emacs - best avoided if possible, but not critical.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tim
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve Holmes writes:
>> >>>> Well at this point, it isn't unique to Arch Linux since I got it to
>> >>>> build.  The rest of the package appears fine.  It's just the errors
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> the TexInfo stuff so I will begin playing with that till I can get
>> >>>> rid
>> >>>> of the errors and warnings.  That should get the package to build
>> >>>> completely without hacking the Makefile or any of that.  I'm still
>> >>>> green enough with emacspeak to see some value in the info pages.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When I get some fixes done, are patches allowed to go to the list or
>> >>>> is there a different way to submit fixes?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 3/20/13, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>> Steve Holmes writes:
>> >>>>>> Still looking for how to fix the info target to build correctly
>> >>>>>> though.  I could mess around with the texinfo pages and see if I
>> >>>>>> can
>> >>>>>> correct the errors myself and provide a patch or something but I
>> know
>> >>>>>> little about texinfo let alone track down someone else's text
>> >>>>>> bugs.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sounds like an excellent learning opportunity for you there Steve
>> >>>>> :-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Seriously though, from your explination, I suspect the problem is
>> quite
>> >>>>> trivial
>> >>>>> and won't be difficult to locate. I don't think we have many arch
>> linux
>> >>>>> users,
>> >>>>> so your contribution to fixing this, in addition to being very
>> appreciated,
>> >>>>> may
>> >>>>> be the only fix we get. Therefore, I hope and encourage you to give
>> it a try
>> >>>>> -
>> >>>>> at the very least, it will mean you avoid the same hack next time
>> you have
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> update.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I personally don't bother doing make install. I run emacspeak from
>> the
>> >>>>> build
>> >>>>> directory and just add the info files to my info path. To be hones,
>> it has
>> >>>>> been
>> >>>>> years since I've even looked at the info files for emacspeak.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tim
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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