On 04/01/2013 11:30 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
Well after two days of messing around and reading some write-ups for ArchLinux concerning PulseAudio, I founhd a suggested configuration to alter Pulse so it and ALSA function side by side now and I can use Emacspeak, Speakup and Gnome with Speech Dispatcher without any speech losses. Also tim, I have not experienced any stability issues with the emacspeak espeak server other than while I was battling with Pulse and all. It is using the pulse driver but I notice that espeak natively is also calling up pulseaudio.c but what's strange is espeakup does not; espeakup probably calls the espeak library function directly and that appears to go through ALSA. Anyway, I seem to have all these environments working now and hopefully this "house of cards" won't collaps on me:). I sure wish the Linux sound system were a lot simpler than all this. On 3/30/13, T.V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Jason, You have articulated part of the issue correctly. The other reason why the pulseaudio / alsa combination gives such vastly varying results is that the layering is complex; See Tim's earlier note. If you have pulseaudio on a system, do an aplay -v of a .wav file and look at the output -- you'll see the audio buffers getting routed through multiple layers. Now, depending on the soundcard and the memory buffer size it needs, sample conversions ... this can go horribly wrong when you generate a lot of rapid audio requests -- something that happens with emacspeak a lot if you perform actions that both produce speech and a rapid sequence of auditory icons. For the record, the first thing I did on my work machines after upgrading to Precise was to nuke pulseaudio -- that is getting harder and harder to do --"Jason" == Jason White <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:Jason> Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Note that there should be no problems with alsa and >> pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is not a replacement for alsa. It >> is another abstraction layer on top of it and pulseaudio >> needs alsa Jason> Jason> Part of the problem might be that PulseAudio holds Jason> devices open even when not in use, so that Jason> applications which access the Alsa layer directly fail Jason> to open audio devices. Jason> Jason> As I remember, there is a way to configure PulseAudio Jason> to relinquish devices temporarily that aren't being Jason> used by applications. Jason> Jason> With apologies in advance if I am wrong in the above - Jason> it's a while since I read about these issues. Jason> Jason> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your Jason> address on the emacspeak list send mail to Jason> "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of Jason> "unsubscribe" or "help". -- Best Regards, --raman -- Best Regards, --raman -- Best Regards, --raman On 3/29/13, Jason White <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Note that there should be no problems with alsa and pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is not a replacement for alsa. It is another abstraction layer on top of it and pulseaudio needs alsaPart of the problem might be that PulseAudio holds devices open even when not in use, so that applications which access the Alsa layer directly fail to open audio devices. As I remember, there is a way to configure PulseAudio to relinquish devices temporarily that aren't being used by applications. With apologies in advance if I am wrong in the above - it's a while since I read about these issues. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help".----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help".----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help".
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