Re: Emacspeak with eSpeak losing speech on Vinux 4

[Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Turn it around the other way - what do you do which you cannot do as a
normal user. Often, this just means having to make a few minor config
changes, such as adding your normal user to a specific group. For
example, on some systems, you may need to be a member of the audio group
i order to use the audio device. 

The difficulty here is that there are no set rules. It all depends on
your distro and how they have set things up. What is generally true is
that hardly anything other than software installation and low level
actions should require root privileges. Needing to run lots of htings as
root generally indicates a configuration problem. 

Tim


On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 21:35 -0400, John Joseph Morgan wrote:
> How can I tell if a normal user has sufficient privileges?
> I used to do something under /dev/audio, but I can't remember what.
> Thanks,
> -j
> On May 10, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I've never tried running as root with espeak or emacs, so can't comment
> > on differences. Very bad idea to run as root and should not be
> > necessary. Similar to always having your windows login running with
> > admin privs. You will expose yourself to malware and virus issues
> > (anyone who tells you Linux and OSX doesn't have malware or viruses is
> > talking rubbish). 
> > 
> > If you are seeing a difference between stability running as root
> > compared to a normal user, it might be that the normal user does not
> > have the necessary permissions to do things like use the real-time
> > scheduler which pulseaudio needs. However, I've not seen linux systems
> > having this problem for quite a few years now, so would be surprised. 
> > 
> > I run both gnome orca and emacspeak with espeak on one system, gnome
> > orca and emacspeak with outloud on another and emacspeak with just
> > espeak on a 3rd system. All are 64 bit. I've not noticed any significant
> > difference between the systems with respect to espeak. On all systems
> > using espeak, espeak is extremely stable with orca and speech dispatcher
> > and unstable with emacspeak. I also find espeak is very stable using
> > speechd-el. 
> > 
> > Tim
> > On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 19:17 -0400, John Joseph Morgan wrote:
> >> I see this too with espeak. It seems to go away when I run emacspeak with espeak under the root user.
> >> I have gnome started with orca at boot up. Is gnome and orca interfering somehow with a non-root user's use of espeak?
> >> John
> >> 
> >> On May 10, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> You can just use the dmesg command in a terminal. 
> >>> 
> >>> I also see the regular loss of speech with espeak. I have never been
> >>> able to track down the issue, though I tend to get distracted with other
> >>> things when I try. I don't see this crashing with speechd or with espeak
> >>> and speech-dispatcher generally. It is limited to the emacspeak espeak
> >>> interface. 
> >>> 
> >>> I find disabling character echo can help a bit. Otherwise, I've just
> >>> gotten use to hitting C-e C-s to restart espeak when it stops
> >>> responding. 
> >>> 
> >>> I have noticed that I don't see this issue with the experiments I've
> >>> done that don't use tcl as the interface language. So it could be that
> >>> the problem is in the tcl layer, but this is just more guesswork.
> >>> 
> >>> Tim
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 11:50 +1000, Jason White wrote:
> >>>> Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I don't see this file on this system. It's a Ubuntu based system.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ubuntu keeps diverging from every other Linux distribution in a growing
> >>>> variety of ways.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Try /var/log/syslog. I don't have an Ubuntu-based system so I'm guessing here.
> >>>> 
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