Re: Emacspeak with eSpeak losing speech on Vinux 4

[Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

When you lose speech on the netbook, after hitting C-e C-s to restart
the espeak server, is it pretty stable then? 

I've noticed on netbooks and other devices which are not a resource
rich, you can get additional instability, especially when first
starting. However, after re-starting the emacspeak speech server, it
isn't too bad. 

To be honest, on any 32 bit system, I will always use ibmtts/outloud
rather than espeak. Outloud I think is a better quality tts and is much
better than espeak for emacspeak. 

For speech-dispatcher, on 64 bit systems, espeak is really good and I'll
use espeak if I don't want to pollute my 64 bit system with a whole pile
of 32 bit libraries. While modern linux distros seem to handle mixed
32/64 bit libs, I think sticking with just 64 bit is probably going to
reduce the likelihood of problems.

My guess for the difference with your netbook will be due to the lower
performance and resources of the netbook. 

Tim



On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 07:17 -0500, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> In my particular case, I have the following two situations:
> 
> I have Vinux 4 64-bit running in a VM. I'm running Emacs24 and Emacspeak 
> 37. I'm using my own version of eSpeak 1.47 that I compiled myself using 
> the runtime option. I did this to keep from losing the last syllable 
> when using eSpeak. Further note that I set it up this way before the 
> eSpeak package in Vinux 4 was updated to also use the runtime option. 
> I'm running Emacs on the desktop, and I have no issues whatsoever with 
> eSpeak.
> 
> On my netbook running Vinux 4 32-bit, I'm running Emacs24 and Emacspeak 
> 37. I'm using the eSpeak that's now shipped with Vinux 4, which is 
> eSpeak 1.47. I don't have the situation with the dropped syllables, but 
> I do lose speech shortly after starting Emacspeak. It doesn't look like 
> the Emacspeak eSpeak server is crashing. I'm also running Emacs on the 
> desktop.
> 
> Vinux 4 is based on Ubuntu 12.04.
> 
> I'm curious why I get one behavior on one system and another behavior on 
> the other. One thing I can try is to compile my own version of eSpeak on 
> my 32-bit netbook, but I'd like to see if I could use the system wide 
> eSpeak and eliminate one thing from my to do list every time I install a 
> new system.
> 
> 
> On 05/10/2013 06:17 PM, John Joseph Morgan wrote:
> > I see this too with espeak. It seems to go away when I run emacspeak with espeak under the root user.
> > I have gnome started with orca at boot up. Is gnome and orca interfering somehow with a non-root user's use of espeak?
> > John
> >
> > On May 10, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> You can just use the dmesg command in a terminal.
> >>
> >> I also see the regular loss of speech with espeak. I have never been
> >> able to track down the issue, though I tend to get distracted with other
> >> things when I try. I don't see this crashing with speechd or with espeak
> >> and speech-dispatcher generally. It is limited to the emacspeak espeak
> >> interface.
> >>
> >> I find disabling character echo can help a bit. Otherwise, I've just
> >> gotten use to hitting C-e C-s to restart espeak when it stops
> >> responding.
> >>
> >> I have noticed that I don't see this issue with the experiments I've
> >> done that don't use tcl as the interface language. So it could be that
> >> the problem is in the tcl layer, but this is just more guesswork.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 11:50 +1000, Jason White wrote:
> >>> Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I don't see this file on this system. It's a Ubuntu based system.
> >>>
> >>> Ubuntu keeps diverging from every other Linux distribution in a growing
> >>> variety of ways.
> >>>
> >>> Try /var/log/syslog. I don't have an Ubuntu-based system so I'm guessing here.
> >>>
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