Re: Emacspeak installation information

[kendell clark <coffeekingms@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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hi
Here, here. I run into this issue constantly. I've actually gotten
emacspeak working, kind of, on arch. The pckage build is unmaintained,
and I have to modify the build script just to get it to build. Then
tclx builds empty binaries, and I have to try to remember what I did
to get it working. Then I can't get daisy mode to work ... and the
cycle repeats. Once I actually get into emacspeak and get the stuff
working, it's phenomenal. The eloquence support is much g better than
espeak, but I guess that'll get fixed eventually. Emacspeak is a
fantastic concept ... If it just worked instead of returning with
process speaker not working, that's because of tclx screwing up, by
the way. We need good docs, and we need maintainers of the various
distro's emacspeak packages.
Thanks
Kendell clark

On 09/15/2014 04:48 PM, Florian Beijers wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just finished reading through the Emacspeak at 20 article and 
> entered what I have dubbed my "Emacspeak loop"  again. This
> basically consists of me wanting to try Emacspeak, building a vm of
> the latest blind-friendly Linux distro out there to save time,
> downloading the latest emacspeak, trying to set it up, failing,
> getting frustrated and giving up. It has become a trend for me to
> wonder what strange, unclear error will jump out at me next when I
> try to configure and build Emacspeak. The installation howto that
> is available appears to last have been updated about 12 years ago
> and scraping together bits and pieces from this list , as well as
> other blogs, sometimes help me enough to actually get a semi-stable
> instance of Emacspeak going if I'm lucky. Now don't get me wrong, I
> really like the concept Emacspeak is trying to portray. I am a
> computer science student myself and aim for this to be my chosen
> career path. I'd like Emacspeak to be a part of that, but if I keep
> having to work a day or more to make the system boot up, let alone
> run smoothly, I am wondering where things are going wrong.
> Shouldn't we take a bit of time to make this part of the emacspeak
> experience a little more user-friendly? Think of writing up 
> accurate and contemporary installation docs? Perhaps change the 
> installation script so it actually looks for what speech system is 
> currently being used rather than making the user manually
> configure this, just to name an example? I like the configurability
> Emacspeak provides. It gives you the opportunity to change
> everything to your liking, but again, this is no use to anybody if
> they can't get the system to work. I've recommended Emacspeak to
> others in the past and more often than notwas met with a reply
> sounding something like "Hmm ...yeah I've heard of it and played 
> around with it, but I never really got it to work ..." . I think
> this is a shame. The more users Emacspeak has the better it can
> become. Configurability is good, but sometimes it's also nice to
> have a way to quickly get things to work. I just thought of
> something while writing this long email, could vagrant not offer a
> solution here? Offer pre-made linux VM's where Emacspeak is already
> configured? I'm just throwing ideas out there, because I really
> think this needs to be improved.
> 
> Regards, Florian
> 
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