[Emacspeak] Re: installing on Mac osx

Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading ‘/Users/mohammad/.emacs.el’:

Symbol's value as variable is void: tts-default-voice

To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the

cause of the error in your initialization file. Start Emacs with

the ‘--debug-init’ option to view a complete error backtrace.

Note that now when I move by character, emacspeak speaks the characters.

Thank you.

Mohammed

On 9 Ram. 1442 AH, at 9:40 AM, Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

OK, I have attached a modified .emac.el file. Replace your version with
the attached version and see if that works better.

If you still get errors, try running emacs with the debug-init flag i.e.

emacs --debug-init

If there is an error, it will provide a backtrace, which will help
identify where the problem is.

The other thing you should do is verify that the 'mac' speech server is
working. Change to the servers directory and run it. You should here it
speak. Use Ctl-c to exit. i.e.

cd ~/emacspeak/servers
./mac

If the 'mac' script is not executable, you will need to make it
executable with

chmod u+x ./mac

What I have done is just add a couple of lines to the .emacs.el file.

- Add/set the environment variable EMACSPEAK_DIR to the path to the root
of your emacspeak source tree

- Add/set the environment variable DTK_PROGRAM to 'mac'. The default
speech server is espeak and while you can install and build espeak on
the mac, you don't need to. The 'mac' server uses the macOS built-in
TTS (same as voiceOver).

- Add the emacspeak lisp dir to the load path. Strictly speaking, I'm
not sure if you need this as I think it might be done by
emacspeak-startup.el, but no harm in making sure.

With luck, this should get you working. There will be other things you
will want to configure/customize, like speech rate, auditory icons etc,
but those are not critical.

Note also that if you see 'warnings' from emacs, don't worry too much
about them. They are only warnings, not errors and while it is good to
get rid of them, they don't always cause harm. They are the sort of
thing you can investigate more once your running.

<mohammad.el>
Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

/Users/mohammad/emacspeak

Here they are...

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 7:36 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You might not believe it, but I think we are getting closer!

Can you attach a copy of your .emacs.el file? Also, can you cd into the
emacspeak lisp directory and execute pwd and paste that it so I know
what the full path is to your emacspeak install?

Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Hi Victor and Tim,
I cloned the git repo from github.

I don’t know how to configure the voice server.

I replaced make-thread with funcall, and recompiled, but it did not work
I also uninstalled emacs and installed the version of emacs suggested by Tim, and it is still not working

I get the following error:

Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading ‘/Users/mohammad/.emacs.el’:

error: Specified program for new process is a directory

To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
cause of the error in your initialization file. Start Emacs with
the ‘--debug-init’ option to view a complete error backtrace.

Thank you
Mohammed

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 4:03 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Just to be clear, you don't need to be a user of macPorts. The
railwaycat cask is a homebrew cask, so it is really just another
homebrew formula. Once installed, brew update/upgrade works just the
same as if you were using the 'native' emacs build.

Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Sure, that's probably true if you are a user of MacPorts. :)

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 5:43 PM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Victor,

good point. I had forgotten about this issue, primarily because I'm not
impacted by it.

Note that the only 'solution' is not just editing to remove calls to
make-thread and replace with funcall. You can also install the mac-ports
version of emacs using the railwaycat/emacsport/emacs-mac cask. I've
been using this version without issue and without needing to modify
emacspeak. I think it also has some other advantages and find it works
better on the mac than a native build - for example, it has a setting
which allows you to turn off voiceOver when running emacs, so you can
avoid the issue of voiceOver and emacspeak fighting against each other
an not need to turn off voiceOver when using emacspeak. It also seems to
integrate better with the rest of macOS and I don't need to do anything
'special' to get command/option keys working consistently. I've found no
compatibility issues or noticed anything negative compared to using the
native build. It is also at version 27.2.

See https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport for details on
how to use this formula with homebrew. You need to remove any other
emacs installed via homebrew before installing it.

Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Hello Mohammed!
I filed a bug against Emacs developers on precisely this issue. We have discussed it just a few weeks ago.
While they are figuring out the cause, which I hope will happen soon or not at all, the only fix that worked is what Raman suggested in
one
of
his
earlier messages. Namely:

1. Open emacspeak.el in your emacspeak/lisp directory.
2. Substitute any calls of "make-thread" with "funcall" (there should be only two occurrences), then save.
3. Recompile by running "make emacspeak" in your "emacspeak" directory.
You should now be good to go in both Terminal as well the GUI, i.e. if you decide to run Emacs app from the Applications folder.

Hope this helps.
Victor

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:30 PM Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Here is the output of echo $path

/usr/local/bin /usr/bin /bin /usr/sbin /sbin

and here is the output of which emacs:

/usr/local/bin/emacs

Note that when I open emacs without loading emacspeak-setup.el, I get the emacs version is 27.2.

Thank you.

Mohammed

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:23 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think we first need to verify that your path variable is correct and
your running the version of emacs installed by homebrew. Can you run in
a terminal the following commands and paste the output in a reply?

echo $PATH

which emacs

and then try running

/usr/local/bin/emacs

and see if that makes any difference.

Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Hi Tim,

I used:

brew install -cask emacs

Then, I built emacspeak using:

make config
make emacspeak

Then, I added the following to .emacs.el:

(load-file “~/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el”)
When I remove this line from the .emacs.el, emacs works normally.

The version of emacs is 27.2
When I use the command
Emacs

I get the error mentioned in the last email.
When I use the command:

emacspeak

I get command not found.

Thank you
Mohammed

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 8:16 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

How did you install Emacs? What version is it?

What is the exact command your running in the terminal to start emacsthe

What do you have in your emacs init file?

This looks like a low level emacs error and not specific to emacspeak.
The error seems related to memory allocation. My guess is that the build
of emacs has not worked correctly.

Make sure your running a recent version of Emacs (macOS comes with a
very old version of Emacs which will not work with emacspeak).

Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Hello list,

My name is Mohammed Alderweesh. This is my first time posting to this list. I am trying to run emacs on Mac os x, I installed the
required
packages,
but when I try running it from the terminal I get the following error:

2021-04-20 05:17:01.372 Emacs-x86_64-10_14[10274:228475] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSButton:
0x7fbe575bced0>) to be
less
than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.

2021-04-20 05:17:01.377 Emacs-x86_64-10_14[10274:228475] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSButton:
0x7fbe576376c0>) to be
less
than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.

Emacs-x86_64-10_14(10274,0x700005a4f000) malloc: *** error for object 0x7000062509f8: pointer being freed was not allocated

Emacs-x86_64-10_14(10274,0x700005a4f000) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug

Fatal error 4: Illegal instruction

zsh: abort emacs

Can you please help me into how to run the software?

Thank you.

Mohammed

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