[Emacspeak] Re: installing on Mac osx

[Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you so much!!

I will check that out.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:34 PM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, there is quite a bit of documentation. There is some html files in
the emacspeak/html directory and some documents in the emacspeak/etc
directory. The main documentation is in *.info format. Add the following
to your .emacs.el file before the line which loads emacspeak-setup.el

(require 'info)
(add-to-list 'Info-additional-directory-list
    (expand-file-name "info"  *emacspeak-src-dir*))

then use emacs info mode (C-h i) to open info and look for a menu entry
for 'Emacspeak'.

Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Finally, I worked with no errors or wornings!!!!.
>
> Thank you so much!!!
>
> Is there any guide to learn more how to use emacs with emacspeak?
>
> Thank you.
> Mohammed
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:02 PM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Hi Mohammad,
>
>  that is a bug, which I thought had been addressed in the sources.
>  Luckily, it is easily fixed. Add the following line to your .emacs.el
>  file before the line to load emacspeak-setup.el
>
>  (setq tts-default-voice 'alex)
>
>  Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>  > Hi Tim,
>  >
>  > Thank you for the great efforts> I tried using the .emacs.el you edited, but still with no luck. I tried copying th stack trace, but I was not able
>  to. I
>  > get the following error:
>  >
>  > Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading â??/Users/mohammad/.emacs.elâ??:
>  >
>  > Symbol's value as variable is void: tts-default-voice
>  >
>  > To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
>  > cause of the error in your initialization file.  Start Emacs with
>  > the â??--debug-initâ?? option to view a complete error backtrace.
>  >
>  > Note that now when I move by character,  emacspeak speaks the characters.
>  >
>  > Thank you.
>  >
>  > Mohammed
>  >
>  >  On 9 Ram. 1442 AH, at 9:40 AM, Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >
>  >  OK, I have attached a modified .emac.el file. Replace your version with
>  >  the attached version and see if that works better.
>  >
>  >  If you still get errors, try running emacs with the debug-init flag i.e.
>  >
>  >  emacs --debug-init
>  >
>  >  If there is an error, it will provide a backtrace, which will help
>  >  identify where the problem is.
>  >
>  >  The other thing you should do is verify that the 'mac' speech server is
>  >  working. Change to the servers directory and run it. You should here it
>  >  speak. Use Ctl-c to exit. i.e.
>  >
>  >  cd ~/emacspeak/servers
>  >  ./mac
>  >
>  >  If the 'mac' script is not executable, you will need to make it
>  >  executable with
>  >
>  >  chmod u+x ./mac
>  >
>  >  What I have done is just add a couple of lines to the .emacs.el file.
>  >
>  >  - Add/set the environment variable EMACSPEAK_DIR to the path to the root
>  >   of your emacspeak source tree
>  >
>  >  - Add/set the environment variable DTK_PROGRAM to 'mac'. The default
>  >   speech server is espeak and while you can install and build espeak on
>  >   the mac, you don't need to. The 'mac' server uses the macOS built-in
>  >   TTS (same as voiceOver).
>  >
>  >  - Add the emacspeak lisp dir to the load path. Strictly speaking, I'm
>  >   not sure if you need this as I think it might be done by
>  >   emacspeak-startup.el, but no harm in making sure.
>  >
>  >  With luck, this should get you working. There will be other things you
>  >  will want to configure/customize, like speech rate, auditory icons etc,
>  >  but those are not critical.
>  >
>  >  Note also that if you see 'warnings' from emacs, don't worry too much
>  >  about them. They are only warnings, not errors and while it is good to
>  >  get rid of them, they don't always cause harm. They are the sort of
>  >  thing you can investigate more once your running.
>  >
>  >  <mohammad.el>
>  >  Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>  >
>  >  /Users/mohammad/emacspeak
>  >
>  >  Here they are...
>  >
>  >  On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 7:36 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >
>  >  You might not believe it, but I think we are getting closer!
>  >
>  >  Can you attach a copy of your .emacs.el file? Also, can you cd into the
>  >  emacspeak lisp directory and execute pwd and paste that it so I know
>  >  what the full path is to your emacspeak install?
>  >
>  >  Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>  >
>  >  Hi Victor and Tim,
>  >  I cloned the git repo from github.
>  >
>  >  I donâ??t  know how to configure the voice server.
>  >
>  >  I replaced make-thread with funcall, and recompiled, but it did not work
>  >  I also uninstalled emacs and installed the version of emacs suggested by Tim, and it is still not working
>  >
>  >  I get the following error:
>  >
>  >  Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading â??/Users/mohammad/.emacs.elâ??:
>  >
>  >  error: Specified program for new process is a directory
>  >
>  >  To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
>  >  cause of the error in your initialization file.  Start Emacs with
>  >  the â??--debug-initâ?? option to view a complete error backtrace.
>  >
>  >  Thank you
>  >  Mohammed
>  >
>  >  On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 4:03 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Just to be clear, you don't need to be a user of macPorts. The
>  >  railwaycat cask is a homebrew cask, so it is really just another
>  >  homebrew formula. Once installed, brew update/upgrade works just the
>  >  same as if you were using the 'native' emacs build.
>  >
>  >  Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>  >
>  >  Sure, that's probably true if you are a user of MacPorts. :)
>  >
>  >  On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 5:43 PM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Hi Victor,
>  >
>  >  good point. I had forgotten about this issue, primarily because I'm not
>  >  impacted by it.
>  >
>  >  Note that the only 'solution' is not just editing to remove calls to
>  >  make-thread and replace with funcall. You can also install the mac-ports
>  >  version of emacs using the railwaycat/emacsport/emacs-mac cask. I've
>  >  been using this version without issue and without needing to modify
>  >  emacspeak. I think it also has some other advantages and find it works
>  >  better on the mac than a native build - for example, it has a setting
>  >  which allows you to turn off voiceOver when running emacs, so you can
>  >  avoid the issue of voiceOver and emacspeak fighting against each other
>  >  an not need to turn off voiceOver when using emacspeak. It also seems to
>  >  integrate better with the rest of macOS and I don't need to do anything
>  >  'special' to get command/option keys working consistently. I've found no
>  >  compatibility issues or noticed anything negative compared to using the
>  >  native build. It is also at version 27.2.
>  >
>  >  See https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport for details on
>  >  how to use this formula with homebrew. You need to remove any other
>  >  emacs installed via homebrew before installing it.
>  >
>  >  Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>  >
>  >  Hello Mohammed!
>  >  I filed a bug against Emacs developers on precisely this issue. We have discussed it just a few weeks ago.
>  >  While they are figuring out the cause, which I hope will happen soon or not at all, the only fix that worked is what Raman
>  >  suggested in
>  >
>  >  one
>  >
>  >  of
>  >
>  >  his
>  >
>  >  earlier messages. Namely:
>  >
>  >  1. Open emacspeak.el in your emacspeak/lisp directory.
>  >  2. Substitute any calls of "make-thread" with "funcall" (there should be only two occurrences), then save.
>  >  3. Recompile by running "make emacspeak" in your "emacspeak" directory.
>  >  You should now be good to go in both Terminal as well the GUI, i.e. if you decide to run Emacs app from the Applications
>  >  folder.
>  >
>  >  Hope this helps.
>  >  Victor
>  >
>  >  On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:30 PM Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >
>  >  Here is the output of echo $path
>  >
>  >  /usr/local/bin /usr/bin /bin /usr/sbin /sbin
>  >
>  >  and here is the output of which emacs:
>  >
>  >  /usr/local/bin/emacs 
>  >
>  >  Note that when I open emacs without loading emacspeak-setup.el, I get the emacs version is 27.2.
>  >
>  >  Thank you.
>  >
>  >  Mohammed
>  >
>  >  On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:23 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >
>  >  I think we first need to verify that your path variable is correct and
>  >  your running the version of emacs installed by homebrew. Can you run in
>  >  a terminal the following commands and paste the output in a reply?
>  >
>  >  echo $PATH
>  >
>  >  which emacs
>  >
>  >  and then try running
>  >
>  >  /usr/local/bin/emacs
>  >
>  >  and see if that makes any difference.
>  >
>  >  Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>  >
>  >  Hi Tim,
>  >
>  >  I used:
>  >
>  >  brew install -cask emacs
>  >
>  >  Then, I built emacspeak using:
>  >
>  >  make config
>  >  make emacspeak
>  >
>  >  Then, I added the following to .emacs.el:
>  >
>  >  (load-file â??~/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.elâ??)
>  >  When I remove this line from the .emacs.el, emacs works normally.
>  >
>  >  The version of emacs is 27.2
>  >  When I use the command
>  >  Emacs
>  >
>  >  I get the error mentioned in the last email.
>  >  When I use the command:
>  >
>  >  emacspeak
>  >
>  >  I get command not found.
>  >
>  >  Thank you
>  >  Mohammed
>  >
>  >  On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 8:16 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >
>  >  How did you install Emacs? What version is it?
>  >
>  >  What is the exact command your running in the terminal to start emacsthe
>  >
>  >  What do you have in your emacs init file?
>  >
>  >  This looks like a low level emacs error and not specific to emacspeak.
>  >  The error seems related to memory allocation. My guess is that the build
>  >  of emacs has not worked correctly.
>  >
>  >  Make sure your running a recent version of Emacs (macOS comes with a
>  >  very old version of Emacs which will not work with emacspeak).
>  >
>  >  Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>  >
>  >  Hello list,
>  >
>  >  My name is Mohammed Alderweesh. This is my first time posting to this list. I am trying to run emacs on Mac os
>  >  x, I installed the
>  >
>  >  required
>  >
>  >  packages,
>  >
>  >  but when I try running it from the terminal I get the following error:
>  >
>  >  2021-04-20 05:17:01.372 Emacs-x86_64-10_14[10274:228475] Warning: Expected min height of view:
>  >  (<NSButton:
>  >
>  >  0x7fbe575bced0>) to be
>  >
>  >  less
>  >
>  >  than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
>  >
>  >  2021-04-20 05:17:01.377 Emacs-x86_64-10_14[10274:228475] Warning: Expected min height of view:
>  >  (<NSButton:
>  >
>  >  0x7fbe576376c0>) to be
>  >
>  >  less
>  >
>  >  than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
>  >
>  >  Emacs-x86_64-10_14(10274,0x700005a4f000) malloc: *** error for object 0x7000062509f8: pointer being freed
>  >  was not allocated
>  >
>  >  Emacs-x86_64-10_14(10274,0x700005a4f000) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
>  >
>  >  Fatal error 4: Illegal instruction
>  >
>  >  zsh: abort      emacs
>  >
>  >  Can you please help me into how to run the software?
>  >
>  >  Thank you.
>  >
>  >  Mohammed
>  >
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