[Emacspeak] Re: Loss of Access to Gmail - Text Mode

[Jim Green <2greensinva@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well, I'm going to once again, try GUI.  When the new Slint is released, I
plan on it.  Do I have time to learn it?  Maybe, I'm getting old.  That
will be the factor.  Watch the Obits!

Jim


On Fri, 3 Jun 2022, Tim Cross via Emacspeak wrote:

>
> While I can sympathise with your situation, I think it is also important
> to recognise that Google and gmail in particular, is first and foremost
> a web based company. The whole gmail ecosystem was designed and
> implemented as a web based email solution. The fact you can access it
> with imap and smtp is really just incidental and was never a significant
> feature from the Google perspective. In fact, I'm pretty sure Google
> would disable imap permanently if they could.
>
> While you might feel there is a good sized community of users who never
> use a Javascript enabled browser or who never login to Google via the
> web, I suspect, from a Google perspective, it isn't a significant number
> at all. In fact, I suspect from the Google perspective, their view is
> that proportionateley, maintaining imap access uses more resources for
> the number of users than the web interface and the number of users who
> refuse to run javascript is so small, they really don't care if they
> loose their patronage.
>
> Reality is, if you want an email service which is not oriented towards
> web based interfaces, don't select a web oriented service provider.
> There is no hope of moving Google away from their web first orientation
> and I suspect, it will get even worse as time progresses. There are also
> signs that the 'free ride' we have all had with regards to many services
> is coming to an end. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't need to
> move to a paid email service in the next decade or so (assuming email
> doesn't go the way of NNTP and other protocols seldom used anymore - who
> remembers gopher!).
>
> "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea(a)arrl.net> writes:
>
> > Jim Green just called me, he now again has access to his email using imap and pop, but the problem is that he cannot log in to a
> > web browser to gmail,
> > and since he never has done so ever, the way of regaining access to his account must be from a logged in account.
> >
> > Google thinks we all access gmail through a web page not an imap server.
> >
> > There is a good sized community of people who have never logged into google with a browser, in fact most of my browsers like
> > elinks and links and w3m don't log in to google.com at all.  It says I have to use a browser with javascript.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > David
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