Re: [Emacspeak] Confused by the speech output I get from Emacs / Emacspeak when using shell

["T.V Raman" <raman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

perhaps that program added some new options that  still lets you get at
its previous behavior.

> Hi.
> Sorry for the silence and thanks for the answers.
> I don't think my prompt has any characters that would trigger the
> behavior. Something must have changed with the latest version of Emacs
> for Mac OS since the pattern  is very recent. For now I just turned on
> ANSI escape char parsing and, at least, I am not getting them read out
> by Emacspeak.
> That same Terminal program, Ollama in this case, worked just a month
> or two ago, but now it is simply refusing to accept any input inside
> the Emacs shell. Works just fine outside of Emacs. Basically, the
> program starts and displays its prompt. However, as I type my input,
> it is being echoed back to me but nothing comes back from Ollama.
> I would be OK using eshell or Terminal but then I do not get all the
> buffer conveniences that come when using plain Emacs shell. It could
> be that my understanding of those modes is far from complete though. :
> )
>
> Thank you!
> Victor
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:53 AM T.V Raman <raman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>     1. Rob is likely right re special  chars in your prompt.
>
>        2. Emacs shell mode has *never* worked  with "terminal apps"
>     AKA
>           full-screen console apps -- Victor, if I didn't know that
>     you
>           were an not an LLM, I'd say you were "hallucinating":-)
>     However
>           since I know that you are not (at least not yet an LLM),
>     here is
>           a bit more terminology:
>
>           A. full-screen apps, ie those that use terminal addressing,
>              include vi, emacs lynx etc; none of which will work in
>     shell
>              mode.
>
>              B. Most shell-level command-line utils dont need
>                 cursor-addressing and *will* work in shell mode.
>
>                 C. To handle special chars such as highlighting, you
>     need
>                    ansi-color-mode in shell buffers, emacspeak does
>     this
>                    in emacspeak-comint.el
>
>     to enable 
>
>     "Victor Tsaran" (via emacspeak Mailing List) writes:
>      > Hello.
>      > I am on Mac OS running Emacspeak 58.0 with Emacs 29.x.
>      > A week or so ago, after doing who knows what to my machine, I
>     started getting what sounds like escape sequences in the speech
>     output produced by Emacspeak when using shell, (m-x shell). Prior
>     to the incident, whatever it was, I was able to run terminal
>     applications inside the shell, send input and get output with no
>     problems. However, now I am hearing left-bracketed utterances and
>     only the last character of the shell prompt, e.g. “%” after
>     issuing a command. What’s worse though is that I am not able to
>     successfully send any input to a terminal application. The input
>     gets echoed but is not parsed by the running terminal application.
>      > I reinstalled Emacs and Emacspeak but to no avail. I reduced my
>     init file to a bare minimum so that only Emacspeak loads.
>      > I tried changing encoding input/output parsing via c-x ret,
>     then “c”, “t” or “p. Still no luck.
>      > I doubt the issue is with Emacspeak, but not sure where else to
>     look and what I have changed to cause the behavior.
>      > 
>      > Any ideas by any chance?
>      > Thanks so much!
>      > Victor
>      > 
>      > 
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