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Apologies... I know these steps sound obvious, but I wanted to demonstrate
how everything simply works on my end.
What is different in your case?

Hope this helps somewhat?
Victor



On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 12:52=E2=80=AFPM John Covici <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxx=
t> wrote:

> Problem is, there is no ~/.config/emacs/init.el this may be the
> problem.  Everything I have is in  ~/emacspeak.  Just to make sure I
> did a make clean, make config and make.
>
> I ram emacs and there is nothing in the .config or .emacs.d related to
> emacspeak.
>
>
> I  have never had anything about emacspeak in  ~/.config, so not sure
> what is happening.
>
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 11:08:20 -0500,
> Robert Melton wrote:
> >
> > Again, that codepath has not changed, did you possibly install a new
> version of emacs or make other system changes?
> >
> > The way it detects where emacspeak is by running the emacspeak binary i=
f
> it finds one, else the emacs binary and then it runs the following lisp
> code:
> >
> > (ignore-errors
> >   (load "~/.emacs.el"))
> > (ignore-errors
> >   (load "~/.emacs"))
> > (ignore-errors
> >   (load "~/.emacs.d/init.el"))
> > (ignore-errors
> >   (load "~/.config/emacs/init.el"))
> > (print emacspeak-directory)
> >
> > So, that appears to be returning something incorrect on your system?
> >
> > > On Jan 9, 2024, at 10:55, John Covici <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > But your makefile was trying to install under .emacs.d and I have no
> > > emacspeak in that directory -- never have had one.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 10:30:32 -0500,
> > > Robert Melton wrote:
> > >>
> > >> John--
> > >>
> > >> I am lost at this point.  Emacspeak needs a directory to work.
> Additionally the code you are talking about has not changed, so it alread=
y
> ran the same code successfully on your computer.
> > >>
> > >> .servers is a file that holds a list of the servers installed, not a
> directory.  You have to have an emacspeak directory and in it there is a
> servers directory and in that directory is a .servers file that has a lis=
t
> of the servers.
> > >>
> > >> Sounds a bit confusing, but in short like for my computer:
> > >>
> > >> ~/.emacs.d/emacspeak/servers is where swiftmac will be installed, as
> well as the scripts like cloud-swiftmac and additionally in the directory
> is a .servers files which lists all the servers available.  You shouldn't
> even be able to see .servers if you are not in the servers directory.
> > >>
> > >> I use emacs and a shell script to find where your emacspeak is
> installed, then do the required modifications to the emacspeak install to
> insert swiftmac, while leaving turning it on in the users hands.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Jan 9, 2024, at 10:22, John Covici <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote=
:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi.  In fact there is no emacspeak directory in ~/.emacs.d -- I don=
't
> > >>> think there ever was such a directory.
> > >>>
> > >>> swiftmac is only in .servers directory in emacspeak.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 07:34:37 -0500,
> > >>> Robert Melton wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> John--
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That implies the target directory doesn't exist... does it?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Jan 9, 2024, at 00:54, John Covici <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On the latest build I get the following output:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Build complete! (0.07s)
> > >>>>> cp cloud-swiftmac ~/.emacs.d/emacspeak/servers/cloud-swiftmac
> > >>>>> cp: /Users/covici/.emacs.d/emacspeak/servers/cloud-swiftmac: No
> such
> > >>>>> file or directory
> > >>>>> make: *** [support_files] Error 1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 08:11:04 -0500,
> > >>>>> Robert Melton wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> John--
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Pushed out 1.0.4 which might fix your issue, let me know.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2024, at 01:03, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing
> List) <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi.  I  have found that swiftmacc 1.0.3 does not say any
> punctuation
> > >>>>>>> when reading lines.  I made sure the mode was set to all, but n=
o
> joy.
> > >>>>>>> Swiitching to tthe default mac server fixes this problem.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The
> question is:
> > >>>>>>> How do
> > >>>>>>> you spend it?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>      John Covici wb2una
> > >>>>>>>      covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>>>> Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send email to:
> > >>>>>>> emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The questio=
n
> is:
> > >>>>> How do
> > >>>>> you spend it?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>       John Covici wb2una
> > >>>>>       covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question
> is:
> > >>> How do
> > >>> you spend it?
> > >>>
> > >>>        John Covici wb2una
> > >>>        covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is=
:
> > > How do
> > > you spend it?
> > >
> > >         John Covici wb2una
> > >         covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
>
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>          John Covici wb2una
>          covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To unsubscribe send email to:
> emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">John.<div>From what I see on my end:</div><div>1. git clon=
e <a href=3D"https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak"; target=3D"_blank">https:=
//github.com/tvraman/emacspeak</a>.</div><div>2. Switch to the dir where th=
e repo has been downloaded.</div><div>3. &quot;make config&quot;, followed =
by &quot;make&quot;.</div><div>4. &quot;cd servers/mac-swiftmac&quot;, then=
 &quot;make&quot;. The Swiftmac binary gets copied into the &quot;servers&q=
uot; directory.</div><div>5. Then set up Swiftmac parameters as per Swiftma=
c&#39;s Readme inside &quot;~/.emacs.d/init.el&quot; file.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Apologies... I know these steps sound obvious, but I wanted to dem=
onstrate how everything simply works on my end.</div><div>What is different=
 in your case?</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps somewhat?</div><div=
>Victor</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 12:52=E2=
=80=AFPM John Covici &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; target=
=3D"_blank">emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Problem is, there is no ~/.config/emacs/=
init.el this may be the<br>
problem.=C2=A0 Everything I have is in=C2=A0 ~/emacspeak.=C2=A0 Just to mak=
e sure I<br>
did a make clean, make config and make.<br>
<br>
I ram emacs and there is nothing in the .config or .emacs.d related to<br>
emacspeak.<br>
<br>
<br>
I=C2=A0 have never had anything about emacspeak in=C2=A0 ~/.config, so not =
sure<br>
what is happening.<br>
<br>
On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 11:08:20 -0500,<br>
Robert Melton wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Again, that codepath has not changed, did you possibly install a new v=
ersion of emacs or make other system changes? <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The way it detects where emacspeak is by running the emacspeak binary =
if it finds one, else the emacs binary and then it runs the following lisp =
code:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; (ignore-errors<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0(load &quot;~/.emacs.el&quot;))<br>
&gt; (ignore-errors<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0(load &quot;~/.emacs&quot;))<br>
&gt; (ignore-errors<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0(load &quot;~/.emacs.d/init.el&quot;))<br>
&gt; (ignore-errors<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0(load &quot;~/.config/emacs/init.el&quot;))<br>
&gt; (print emacspeak-directory)<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; So, that appears to be returning something incorrect on your system?<b=
r>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; On Jan 9, 2024, at 10:55, John Covici &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:covic=
i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; But your makefile was trying to install under .emacs.d and I have=
 no<br>
&gt; &gt; emacspeak in that directory -- never have had one.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 10:30:32 -0500,<br>
&gt; &gt; Robert Melton wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; John--<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I am lost at this point.=C2=A0 Emacspeak needs a directory to=
 work.=C2=A0 Additionally the code you are talking about has not changed, s=
o it already ran the same code successfully on your computer.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; .servers is a file that holds a list of the servers installed=
, not a directory.=C2=A0 You have to have an emacspeak directory and in it =
there is a servers directory and in that directory is a .servers file that =
has a list of the servers. <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Sounds a bit confusing, but in short like for my computer:<br=
>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; ~/.emacs.d/emacspeak/servers is where swiftmac will be instal=
led, as well as the scripts like cloud-swiftmac and additionally in the dir=
ectory is a .servers files which lists all the servers available.=C2=A0 You=
 shouldn&#39;t even be able to see .servers if you are not in the servers d=
irectory. <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I use emacs and a shell script to find where your emacspeak i=
s installed, then do the required modifications to the emacspeak install to=
 insert swiftmac, while leaving turning it on in the users hands. <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Jan 9, 2024, at 10:22, John Covici &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi.=C2=A0 In fact there is no emacspeak directory in ~/.e=
macs.d -- I don&#39;t<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; think there ever was such a directory.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; swiftmac is only in .servers directory in emacspeak.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 07:34:37 -0500,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Robert Melton wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; John--<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; That implies the target directory doesn&#39;t exist..=
. does it?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Jan 9, 2024, at 00:54, John Covici &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; target=3D"_blank">covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On the latest build I get the following output:<b=
r>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Build complete! (0.07s)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; cp cloud-swiftmac ~/.emacs.d/emacspeak/servers/cl=
oud-swiftmac<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; cp: /Users/covici/.emacs.d/emacspeak/servers/clou=
d-swiftmac: No such<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; file or directory<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; make: *** [support_files] Error 1<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 08:11:04 -0500,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Robert Melton wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; John--<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Pushed out 1.0.4 which might fix your issue, =
let me know. <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Jan 8, 2024, at 01:03, John Covici (vi=
a emacspeak Mailing List) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi.=C2=A0 I=C2=A0 have found that swiftma=
cc 1.0.3 does not say any punctuation<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; when reading lines.=C2=A0 I made sure the=
 mode was set to all, but no joy.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Swiitching to tthe default mac server fix=
es this problem.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -- <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Your life is like a penny.=C2=A0 You&#39;=
re going to lose it.=C2=A0 The question is:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; How do<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; you spend it?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 John Covici wb2una<br=
>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:cov=
ici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Emacspeak discussion list -- <a href=3D"m=
ailto:emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a=
><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To unsubscribe send email to:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:emacspeak-request@emacs=
peak.net" target=3D"_blank">emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> with a subj=
ect of: unsubscribe<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -- <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Your life is like a penny.=C2=A0 You&#39;re going=
 to lose it.=C2=A0 The question is:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; How do<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; you spend it?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0John Covici wb2una<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:covic=
i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; -- <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Your life is like a penny.=C2=A0 You&#39;re going to lose=
 it.=C2=A0 The question is:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; How do<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; you spend it?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 John Covici wb2una<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:covici@ccs.c=
ovici.com" target=3D"_blank">covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; -- <br>
&gt; &gt; Your life is like a penny.=C2=A0 You&#39;re going to lose it.=C2=
=A0 The question is:<br>
&gt; &gt; How do<br>
&gt; &gt; you spend it?<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0John Covici wb2una<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:covici@xxxxxxx=
ici.com" target=3D"_blank">covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
-- <br>
Your life is like a penny.=C2=A0 You&#39;re going to lose it.=C2=A0 The que=
stion is:<br>
How do<br>
you spend it?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0John Covici wb2una<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; =
target=3D"_blank">covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
Emacspeak discussion list -- <a href=3D"mailto:emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
To unsubscribe send email to:<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; target=3D"_blank">emacsp=
eak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> with a subject of: unsubscribe<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><d=
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