Re: [Emacspeak] Problem when editing a document with emacspeak

[Robert Melton <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

TV--

If the answer is "the visual lines prompt negates the need to set the value", then 
this is me giving a *groan* :)

I read and understood how that worked, I just didn't think a buffer-local changing
of the value to double the current troublesome line was the same as changing 
the value globally and deliberately to a number that specifically works for the user.

Even if it was a bit of a snipe hunt, I learned a bunch in the process! :P

> On Jan 21, 2024, at 22:16, T.V Raman <raman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> "Robert Melton" (via emacspeak Mailing List) <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> writes:
> 
> 
> 1. The original reporter found  a defcustom, likely because his
>   emacspeak is out-dated; there used to be a defcuston -- so see my
>   first tip re always first checking version.
> 2. Your steps were technically correct otherwise but you started being misled.
> 3. If you hadn't been misled, you'd likely have read the code in
>   emacspeak-speak-line a bit more, rather than   jumping to the
>   cross-ref; so tip: if jumping doesn't yield an answer, read the code
>   a bit more.
> 4. I'll cite the code block to read below -- see if you spot the
>   intended  solution that is already built-in.
> 
>   So read the complete cond form below -- not just one of its arms.
> 
>   (cond
>             ((or                       ;speakable
>               selective-display
>               (< l ems--speak-max-line)
>               (get-text-property start 'speak-line))
>              t)
>             (t
>              (when (y-or-n-p "use Visual Lines")
>                (call-interactively #'visual-line-mode))
>              (unless visual-line-mode
>                (put-text-property start end 'start-line t)
>                (setq ems--speak-max-line (* 2 l)))
>              t))
> 
>> 
>> I can't spot what I should be looking at, so let me first explain how I got to that variable.
>> 
>> I started in defun emacspeak-speak-line as it felt like the likely starting point, it in I saw 
>> a reference to ems--speak-max-line in the comparison to line length, jumped to the def
>> and found it in the same file defined as 384. 
>> 
>> I didn't know how the deflocal macro worked, so looked it up and saw that if there was 
>> a global value it would take it rather than use the value provided, so that is why I made
>> the recommendation. 
>> 
>> Then, I looked around for a defcustom of anything touching it, by grepping around for 
>> the ems--speak-max-line and I can't find it being touched anywhere by anything.  I 
>> understand that the OP found a way to tweak it in eamcspeak-customize but I can't 
>> seem to find it.
>> 
>> So, what am I missing?  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 12:21, T.V Raman (via emacspeak Mailing List) <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 6 Tip: Robert, as the one who picked up on the internal var to set by
>>>  looking at the code, you were also looking at the real answer right
>>>  on that line, can you spot it?
>> 
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