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Re: [Emacspeak] loading emacspeak causes emacs itself to be non functional



All I have is an app, so no way to supply any arguments like -nw .

On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 00:34:02 -0500,
Victor Tsaran wrote:
> 
> [1  <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> Yep, this is sort of the situation I am in currently.
> If you wait a little bit, or just press up and down arrows a few times,
> Emacspeak may resume speaking. SOmetimes this happens after a few seconds,
> sometimes it may take 30. You will know that Emacspeak is about to resume
> its operation when you hear VoiceOver say something like "Emacs is not
> responding".
> Unfortunately, I am not able to figure out how to profile what is happening
> there.
> If you launch "emacs" in Terminal though, using the "emacs -nw" command,
> everything should work fine. Can you try it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 8:05 PM John Covici <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > So, I have made some progress of a sort -- I wiped out the emacspeak
> > directtory  and re cloned from git.  Now emacspeak loads successfully,
> > but it will only speak if I use c-e commands, if I hit the down arror
> > for instance, nothing happens.  So, how to get things working again?
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:04:51 -0500,
> > Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> > >
> > > [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> > > Also, if mplayer ends up not being the issue, can you clarify what you
> > mean by “some sort of fatal error”? What sort? :-) Also, any tracebacks?
> > >
> > > > On 31 Jan 2024, at 13:40, John Covici <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your quick response.
> > > >
> > > > I did make clean, make confiig and make whenever I changed the
> > > > emacspeak I was using.  I did tryy to load emacspeak using esc-x
> > > > load-file, but I got some kind of fatal error when trying to do that.
> > > > Since this is a mac, would I need mplayer and sox?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 06:36:08 -0500,
> > > > Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> > > >> Hi John,
> > > >> There could be many reasons for this, so I’m going to throw a whole
> > bunch of steps at you to see which one works, haha.
> > > >> First, have you tried running `make clean` and `make` when you either
> > go back to a release or to the git HEAD?
> > > >> Also, do you have Emacspeak dependencies, notably mplayer and sox
> > installed?
> > > >> If you do all this, we’ll need to figure out what happens when you
> > load Emacspeak. I’m not sure of the best way to do this given your
> > configuration, but maybe try the emacs -Q that you did before, and do M-:
> > (load-file “~/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el”) or whatever your
> > emacspeak path is, and see if you can read the buffer contents with the
> > errors, maybe from th e*Messages* buffer.
> > > >> Hope this gives you a few next steps to debug the issue!
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:28, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) <
> > emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi everyone. So, I think this started after upgrading to emacs 29.1.
> > > >>> What happens is that after emacspeak is loaded emacs does not work --
> > > >>> escape followed by x types x in the buffer.  c-x followed by b does
> > > >>> nothing at all.  Many other things don't seem to work as they should.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So, I started on the hunt.  I am using the railway casc out of
> > > >>> homebrew, but the same thing happens with the original emacs macport.
> > > >>> So, the first thing I did was from the terrminal typed
> > > >>>
> > /opt/homebrew/Cellar/emacs-mac/emacs-29.1-mac-10.0/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacx
> > > >>> -q  to see if it was my settings.  Sure enough, emacs was
> > functioning,
> > > >>> I knew this because vo read  some things and I could actually hear
> > m-x
> > > >>> when I typed esc-x .  So, I then fooled around with my .emacs file
> > and
> > > >>> sure enough, the load of emacspeak was the problem.  I was using
> > > >>> emacspeak from git and I went back to emacs 59, but no joy.  I am
> > > >>> stumped after that, so any suggestions as to how to debug further
> > > >>> would be appreciated.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks all.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question
> > is:
> > > >>> How do
> > > >>> you spend it?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>        John Covici wb2una
> > > >>>        covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> To unsubscribe send email to:
> > > >>> emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe
> > > >>
> > > >> [2  <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>]
> > > >> Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> To unsubscribe send email to:
> > > >> emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > > > How do
> > > > you spend it?
> > > >
> > > >         John Covici wb2una
> > > >         covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > [2  <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>]
> > > Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > To unsubscribe send email to:
> > > emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe
> >
> > --
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >          John Covici wb2una
> >          covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe send email to:
> > emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe
> >
> 
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