Emacspeak should start talking as soon as you start emacs. The fact it isn't means there is still something not correct. It will be necessary to go through a few checks to ensure each bit is working. First, in a terminal, cd into where you have emacspeak sources and cd into the servers directory. IN that directory, you will see a file called espeak. Run this command at the shell ./espeak You should hear something like "espeak 1.5.1.1" or similar. You will also find your cursor is now inside a tcl shell with a % sign as the prompt. Hit Control d to get out of the tcl shell. If the above all works, we know the speech server part is working. If it doesn't, you should get an error which you need to investigate and/or post here. Assuming the above works, we now need to know exactly what you have in your init.el file. Post that here and we can see if it looks correct. Note that when you ran the following in the root of the emacspeak repository make config make that the process will print a message at the end, Part of that message shows the exact line you need to put into your emacs init file. You might want to re-run those make commands and look at the message to make sure what you have added to your emacs init file is correct. If all still looks correct and it still doesn't work, then the issue may be that emacs is loading a different init file from the one yhou think is being loaded. If you used ~/.config/emacs/init.el, make sure you don't have a ~/.emacs.d or a ~/.emacs or a ~/.emacs.el file as those will take preference over ~/.config/emacs Lanie Carmelo <laniegcarmelo@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Okay, I think I have everything set up right. Emacspeak doesn't start when I open > Emacs, though. Does this mean I did something wrong, or is there a certain way to start > Emacspeak? > > On 4/28/24 20:54, Tim Cross wrote: >> It is a little convoluted because emacs and linux has evolved and >> preferences for config file locations have changed. Emacs >> likes to maintain backwards compatibility. This means there are multiple >> possible locations for a user initialisation file and even multiple >> different names. >> >> Under modern XDG style setups, the configuration file is >> ~/.config/emacs/init.el and in older setups it is often in >> ~/.emacs.d/init.el (this is what I have). Note that ~/ is shorthand for >> your home directory. >> >> For more detailed explanation, I have included some info from the Emacs >> manual below. >> >> 51.4 The Emacs Initialization File >> ================================== >> >> When Emacs is started, it normally tries to load a Lisp program from an >> “initialization file”, or “init file” for short. This file, if it >> exists, specifies how to initialize Emacs for you. Traditionally, file >> ‘~/.emacs’ is used as the init file, although Emacs also looks at >> ‘~/.emacs.el’, ‘~/.emacs.d/init.el’, ‘~/.config/emacs/init.el’, or other >> locations. *Note Find Init::. >> >> and >> >> 51.4.4 How Emacs Finds Your Init File >> ------------------------------------- >> >> Emacs normally finds your init file in a location under your home >> directory(1). *Note Init File::. >> >> Emacs looks for your init file using the filenames ‘~/.emacs.el’, >> ‘~/.emacs’, or ‘~/.emacs.d/init.el’ in that order; you can choose to use >> any one of these names. (Note that only the locations directly in your >> home directory have a leading dot in the location’s basename.) >> >> Emacs can also look in an XDG-compatible location for ‘init.el’, the >> default is the directory ‘~/.config/emacs’. This can be overridden by >> setting ‘XDG_CONFIG_HOME’ in your environment, its value replaces >> ‘~/.config’ in the name of the default XDG init file. However >> ‘~/.emacs.d’, ‘~/.emacs’, and ‘~/.emacs.el’ are always preferred if they >> exist, which means that you must delete or rename them in order to use >> the XDG location. >> >> Note also that if neither the XDG location nor ‘~/.emacs.d’ exist, >> then Emacs will create ‘~/.emacs.d’ (and therefore use it during >> subsequent invocations). >> >> Emacs will set ‘user-emacs-directory’ to the directory it decides to >> use. >> >> >>> I managed to finally build the eSpeak server and added some things from the Emacspeak >>> installation instructions to my . >>> bashrc file, which is the closest thing I could find to .bash_profile, the file the >>> instructions mention. I'm now looking for the . >>> emacs file. Can anyone give me any pointers as to where this might be? >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:29 PM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> OK, we have progress. That is a different error. >>> >>> It looks like your missing the tcl packages. I don't know exactly what >>> they are called on Ubuntu, but you essentially need the packages tcl, >>> tcl-devel (or tcl-dev or something similar) and tclx. >>> >>> Lanie Carmelo <laniegcarmelo@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> >>> > Looks like the same error to me: >>> > g++ -g -O2 -fPIC -DPIC -pedantic -ansi -Wall -Wno-long-long --std=c++11 -I/usr/include/tcl8.6 -c -o tclespeak.o >>> > tclespeak.cpp >>> > tclespeak.cpp:47:10: fatal error: tcl.h: No such file or directory >>> > 47 | #include <tcl.h> >>> > | ^~~~~~~ >>> > compilation terminated. >>> > make: *** [<builtin>: tclespeak.o] Error 1 >>> > I'll look in the directory you mentioned and see if I can find the file. >>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 6:42 PM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > >>> > My guess would be that under your distro, the package you need is >>> > libespeak-ng-dev/noble, which from you list, you seem to have >>> > installed. So, next step is to verify whether >>> > >>> > 1. You are definitely getting the exact same error >>> > >>> > 2. Where the header file speak_lib.h is located on your >>> > system. If it isn't in /usr/include/espeak-ng then you will need to >>> > adjust the path the compiler searches in order to find it. However, just >>> > to be certain, make sure you do a make clean and a make in the >>> > native-espeak directory to verify it is the exact same error message. >>> > >>> > Lanie Carmelo <laniegcarmelo@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> > >>> > > Okay, I just looked again, and I can't find a package with the name >>> > > espeak-ng-devel. These are all the packages I >>> find >>> > when >>> > > I do sudo apt search espeak: >>> > > asterisk-espeak/noble 5.0~1-4ubuntu1 amd64 >>> > > eSpeak module for Asterisk >>> > > >>> > > brltty-espeak/noble 6.6-4ubuntu5 amd64 >>> > > Access software for a blind person - espeak driver >>> > > >>> > > emacspeak/noble,now 53.0+dfsg-2 all [installed] >>> > > speech output interface to Emacs >>> > > >>> > > emacspeak-espeak-server/noble,now 53.0+dfsg-2 amd64 [installed,automatic] >>> > > espeak synthesis server for emacspeak >>> > > >>> > > espeak/noble,now 1.48.15+dfsg-3build1 amd64 [installed] >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer >>> > > >>> > > espeak-data/noble,now 1.48.15+dfsg-3build1 amd64 [installed,automatic] >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer: speech data files >>> > > >>> > > espeak-ng/noble,now 1.51+dfsg-12build1 amd64 [installed] >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer >>> > > >>> > > espeak-ng-data/noble,now 1.51+dfsg-12build1 amd64 [installed,automatic] >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer: speech data files >>> > > >>> > > espeak-ng-espeak/noble 1.51+dfsg-12build1 all >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer >>> > > >>> > > espeakedit/noble 1.48.15-2build3 amd64 >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer - editor >>> > > >>> > > espeakup/noble 1:0.90-13build2 amd64 >>> > > Connector between speakup kernel modules and espeak >>> > > >>> > > foliate/noble 4.~really3.1.1-1 all >>> > > simple and modern ebook viewer >>> > > >>> > > gstreamer1.0-espeak/noble 0.5.0-1build2 amd64 >>> > > GStreamer plugin for eSpeak speech synthesis >>> > > >>> > > libespeak-dev/noble,now 1.48.15+dfsg-3build1 amd64 [installed] >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer: development files >>> > > >>> > > libespeak-ng-dev/noble,now 1.51+dfsg-12build1 amd64 [installed] >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer: development files >>> > > >>> > > libespeak-ng-libespeak-dev/noble 1.51+dfsg-12build1 amd64 >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer: development files >>> > > >>> > > libespeak-ng-libespeak1/noble 1.51+dfsg-12build1 amd64 >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer: shared library >>> > > >>> > > libespeak-ng1/noble,now 1.51+dfsg-12build1 amd64 [installed,automatic] >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer: shared library >>> > > >>> > > libespeak1/noble,now 1.48.15+dfsg-3build1 amd64 [installed,automatic] >>> > > Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer: shared library >>> > > >>> > > mbrola/noble 3.3+dfsg-9 amd64 >>> > > Multilingual software speech synthesizer >>> > > >>> > > pykml/noble 0.2.0+dfsg-4 all >>> > > Python KML library -- scripts >>> > > >>> > > python3-espeak/noble,now 0.5-5build3 amd64 [installed] >>> > > Python bindings for eSpeak >>> > > >>> > > python3-py/noble 1.11.0-2 all >>> > > Advanced Python development support library (Python 3) >>> > > >>> > > python3-pykml/noble 0.2.0+dfsg-4 all >>> > > Python KML library >>> > > >>> > > ruby-espeak/noble 1.1.0-1 all >>> > > small Ruby API to create Text-To-Speech mp3 files >>> > > >>> > > speech-dispatcher-espeak/noble,now 0.12.0~rc2-2build3 amd64 [installed] >>> > > Speech Dispatcher: Espeak output module >>> > > >>> > > speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/noble,now 0.12.0~rc2-2build3 amd64 [installed,automatic] >>> > > Speech Dispatcher: Espeak-ng output module >>> > > >>> > > speechd-up/noble 0.5~20110719-15 amd64 >>> > > Interface between Speech Dispatcher and SpeakUp >>> > > >>> > > stardict-plugin/noble 3.0.7+git20220909+dfsg-4build4 amd64 >>> > > International dictionary lookup program - common plugins >>> > > >>> > > stardict-plugin-espeak/noble 3.0.7+git20220909+dfsg-4build4 amd64 >>> > > International dictionary lookup program - eSpeak TTS plugin >>> > > >>> > > yt-dlp/noble,now 2024.04.09-1 all [installed,automatic] >>> > > downloader of videos from YouTube and other sites >>> > > >>> > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 5:56 PM Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > The initial error you reported is telling you that the make process >>> > > cannot find a espeak-ng header file. As reported by others, this >>> > > typically indicates you don't have the epseak-ng development package >>> > > installed which contains the shared libraries and header files needed to >>> > > build the espeak speech server. Development packages typically share the >>> > > name of the main binary package, but with the extension -devel. >>> > > >>> > > If you have verified you have espeak-ng-devel (and not espeak-devel, the >>> > > 'ng' is important) installed, verify you are getting the exact same >>> > > error and not just another error. Do a make clean and then a make in the >>> > > native-espeak directory. If you get the exact same error message, that >>> > > would indicate that for some reason, the build process is not finding >>> > > the header files. This would indicate they are in a different location >>> > > to where the build process expects them, so the next step would be to >>> > > identify where the files are located. On Fedora, the files are in >>> > > /usr/include/espeak-ng and I would expect a similar location in >>> > > Ubuntu/debian. >>> > > >>> > > So, first step, confirm it is the exact same error message and if it is, >>> > > confirm you have espeak-ng-devel installed and where the >>> > > espeak-ng/speak_lib.h file is located. >>> > > >>> > > If it is actually a slightly different error message your now getting, >>> > > then post that message and we will look at that. Hope it is a slightly >>> > > different message as that means progress! >>> > > >>> > > BTW you say you just installed Linux on an old system you had. Can you >>> > > also indicate how familiar and/or comfortable you are with Linux. This >>> > > will help in knowing what level of detail we need to provide when making >>> > > suggestions. >>> > > >>> > > "Lanie Carmelo" (via emacspeak Mailing List) <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> > > >>> > > > I think I have all the right eSpeak packages installed, but it still doesn't >>> > > > work. A file showing my available >>> packages >>> > and >>> > > > what I have installed is attached. Hopefully this will help clear things up. >>> > > > >>> > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:51 AM John Covici <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > I think you need the espeak-ng package as opposed to just espeak -- >>> > > > not just the -dev package. >>> > > > >>> > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:43:23 -0400, >>> > > > Lanie Carmelo (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > [1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] >>> > > > > [1.1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] >>> > > > > Hi. I installed the dev package, but it's still not seeing that file. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 11:44 PM Bart Bunting <bart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Looks like you’re missing the espeak ng dev package >>> > > > > > Regards >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Bart >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > On 28 Apr 2024, at 2:23 PM, Lanie Carmelo <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Hi all. New subscriber here. I just put Linux on an old computer I have, >>> > > > > > and I'm trying to install Emacspeak. I've tried both the directions on the >>> > > > > > Emacspeak website and just installing the package found when I type sudo >>> > > > > > apt install emacspeak. When I tried the first option for the first time, >>> > > > > > make config didn't work, so I tried the second and got a Dpkg error code 1. >>> > > > > > I then tried following the directions on the website again, and this time I >>> > > > > > got to where I'm supposed to build a speech server. I chose eSpeak and made >>> > > > > > sure all eSpeak packages were installed. I tried to build it by typing make >>> > > > > > and got: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > g++ -g -O2 -fPIC -DPIC -pedantic -ansi -Wall -Wno-long-long >>> > > > > > --std=c++11 -I/usr/include/tcl8.6 -c -o tclespeak.o tclespeak.cpp >>> > > > > > > tclespeak.cpp:41:10: fatal error: espeak-ng/speak_lib.h: No such file or >>> > > > > > directory >>> > > > > > > 41 | #include <espeak-ng/speak_lib.h> >>> > > > > > > | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > > > > > > compilation terminated. >>> > > > > > > make: *** [<builtin>: tclespeak.o] Error 1 >>> > > > > > > rarebird15@rarebird15-HP-Laptop-14-dq0xxx:~/emacspeak/servers/native-espeak$ >>> > > > > > ^C >>> > > > > > > rarebird15@rarebird15-HP-Laptop-14-dq0xxx >>> > > > > > :~/emacspeak/servers/native-espeak$ >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Has anyone else encountered this? Can you give me any suggestions on how >>> > > > > > to fix it? Thanks. >>> > > > > > > Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > > > > > To unsubscribe send email to: >>> > > > > > > emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > [1.2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] >>> > > > > [2 <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>] >>> > > > > Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > > > To unsubscribe send email to: >>> > > > > emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe >>> > > > >>> > > > -- >>> > > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: >>> > > > How do >>> > > > you spend it? >>> > > > >>> > > > John Covici wb2una >>> > > > covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > > >>> > > > [4. text/plain; espeak.txt]... >>> > > > >>> > > > Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > > To unsubscribe send email to: >>> > > > emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of: unsubscribe
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