Re: question about emacspeak-websearch

["T. V. Raman" <raman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Though the right thing to do in this case was to delete the lines of
code in question --which should not have been there really speaking in
the first place,
your message about advice was definitely not off topic.

For those who did read and understand Tim's note -

one could have forced emacspeak-websearch to always use w3m with a two
line advice (albeit a hack)--
(defadvice emacspeak-websearch-dispatch (around emacspeak pre act comp
(let ((browse-url-browser-function ...))
ad-do-it))

Notice that the above neatly configures 
browse-url-browser-function to be what ever you want for the duration
of the websearch call.

    Tim> Hi Yvonne, Just to clarify something....

    >> From your responses, I get the impression you feel your
    >> original
    Tim> question has caused some sort of trouble or something. I just
    Tim> wanted to assure you that I certainly didn't feel anything
    Tim> similar and apologise if my response was only telling you
    Tim> things you already know and came across as condesending or
    Tim> something. This certainly was not the intention. Its often
    Tim> difficult to know at what level to respond, especially on
    Tim> this list where we have such a wide range of
    Tim> understanding/ability with respect to emacs and emacspeak.

    Tim> Looking back at the thread, I do feel I may have misread what
    Tim> your problem was - I don't know if that was because I didn't
    Tim> read it closely enough or because your description was not
    Tim> clear enough - I suspect it was a combination of both. The
    Tim> main thing which prompted me to respond was that it was
    Tim> obvious you had attempted to find a solution and that is
    Tim> exactly the type of poster we want to encourage, so I thought
    Tim> I'd suggest a couple of possible things to check out and some
    Tim> warnings regarding issues you may not have been aware of.

    Tim> I hope this experience does not discourage you from using
    Tim> this resource as its important and helps build up a valuable
    Tim> archive of information others can use. I hope we will see you
    Tim> on this list again!

    Tim> Tim

>>>>> "Yvonne" == Yvonne Thomson <yvonne@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    Yvonne> At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:05:27 -0700, T V Raman wrote:
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> Those ines of code in emacspeak-websearch deserved to be
    >>> deleted and are now gone.
    >>> 
    Yvonne> Thanks for that.

    >>> However your assertion that its presence meant that you
    >>> couldn't use emacspeak-websearch unless w3 was installed was
    >>> incorrect-- it set up browse-url to use W3 if and only if W3
    >>> was installed.
    >>> 
    Yvonne> *sigh* I didn't say that. Or at least, if I did, I didn't
    Yvonne> mean that.  I've been using emacspeak for more than enough
    Yvonne> years to be aware of the w3 vs w3m problem. I.e. w3 has
    Yvonne> the features but, on my setup, takes way, way too long to
    Yvonne> display web pages. Therefore, it's a productivity trade
    Yvonne> off for me.  My only argument was, and is still, that I
    Yvonne> did *not* want emacspeak to change my browse-url setting
    Yvonne> unless I asked it to or I changed it myself. My primary
    Yvonne> web browser is w3m. I will occasionally use w3 if, and
    Yvonne> that's usually a big if, I need the advanced features,
    Yvonne> hence it's installed. As far as I know, the xslt stuff is
    Yvonne> still in the emacspeak-w3 file anyway, therefore it's
    Yvonne> messy not to have both browsers installed. I had no
    Yvonne> intention of causing all this trouble, I swear I didn't. I
    Yvonne> think my ability to explain myself must've been thrown out
    Yvonne> the window in the last couple of days or something.

    >>> Note that some of emacspeak-websearch's functionality --in
    >>> fact quite a lot of its advanced functionality-- may not work
    >>> with w3m
    >>> --
    >>> 
    Yvonne> That's probably the case, yes. For good or for evil,
    Yvonne> though, I don't use most of emacspeak-websearch's
    Yvonne> functionallity. I would say 99.9% of my use of it involves
    Yvonne> nothing more than calling google with a single keystroke
    Yvonne> combination. About the only advanced functionality
    Yvonne> involved there seems to be the ability of emacspeak to
    Yvonne> jump down to the search results, bypassing the stuff up
    Yvonne> the top. Since I really don't find going down a couple of
    Yvonne> lines to get to my search results all that inconvenient, I
    Yvonne> don't think that's exactly something I'll miss.

    Yvonne> I honestly think next time, I'll just comment out the
    Yvonne> lines, and not say a thing about it. It was a minor
    Yvonne> inconvenience to me that I asked about the reason for,
    Yvonne> that's all. I'll try, very very hard, to make my
    Yvonne> explanation clearer next time if I need to ask such a
    Yvonne> question again.

-- 
Best Regards,
--raman

      
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