I have managed to get emacspeak-widget to compile against the widget libraries, the only way i could do this was to create simlinks to them in the /usr/local/emacspeak/ dirrectory. as far as i can tell evrything should be working. when i try to start w3, I get the message: Loading emacspeak-w3... Cannot open load file: emacspeak-load-path can anyone explain this? thanks again, Bart.