Lukas, Yes, this is intentional. The problem with just speaking the value of the "current field" is that it was not correctly speaking the default value for functions like read-from-minibuffer, it was also having trouble speaking the right thing as one cycled in the minibuffer history (from memory). I could set things up to skip the minibuffer prompt, just haven't hit cases where the output was verbvose. >>>>> "Lukas" == Lukas Loehrer <listaddr1@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Lukas> Hi all, after updating to the latest version of Lukas> emacspeak from svn, I noticed some changes how the Lukas> minibuffer is spoken. I am describing them here to Lukas> find out if others can reproduce this behavior. I Lukas> experience the changes in emacs 22.1.1 from Ubuntu Lukas> Hardy and emacs 23 from the 3rd party emacs-snapshot Lukas> package on Debian. Lukas> Lukas> When cycling through the minibuffer history, both , Lukas> the minibuffer prompt and the history item are Lukas> spoken. It used to be only the minibuffer history Lukas> item. This behavior can lead to very verbose output if Lukas> the minibuffer prompt is long. I tracked this down to Lukas> the changes to emacspeak-advice.el in revision Lukas> 5766. emacspeak now speaks the return value of Lukas> buffer-string instead of using Lukas> emacspeak-speak-current-field. Is this change of Lukas> behavior intentional, and if so, what is the rationale Lukas> behind it? Lukas> Lukas> Another change I noticed is what gets spoken when the Lukas> minibuffer is entered. This is in Lukas> emacspeak-minibuffer-setup-hook in Lukas> emacspeak-advice.el. The return value of buffer-string Lukas> and the value of minibuffer-default are spoken. The Lukas> problem ist that the former often (always?) contains Lukas> the default value. Something like: Lukas> Lukas> Switch to buffer (default *shel*):" Lukas> Lukas> or Lukas> Lukas> Find file: /home/foo/bar Lukas> Lukas> The default value is thus spoken twice. Lukas> Lukas> Best regards, Lukas Lukas> Lukas> Lukas> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lukas> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your Lukas> address on the emacspeak list send mail to Lukas> "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of Lukas> "unsubscribe" or "help" -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@xxxxxxxxxxx WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help"
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