Re: emacspeak and w3

[Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The quick and dirty 'fix' I applied for this werror is to comment out
the two lines from w3-speak.el which require emacspeak-fix-interactive
at cimpile time. This stops the make process from exiting early and
ensures the rest of the *.el files are compiled. It does not appear to
have any dramatic impact.

Raman, I looked at your patch from your w3 and I think your right. It
looks like all you changes do is remove some of the excessive
'padding' w3 was doing when rendering things like lists and
blockquote. On my system, the unmodified version would put boxquote
elements and lists right over on the right hand side - so much so that
blockquotes would end up being rendered as only one or two words per
line. I found that modifying the default.css file to change all margin
settings from 5em to 1em greatly improved things.

One remaining and extremely frustrating issue I have is that on some
pages, regardless of style sheet settings, w3 renders the page with
white background and white foreground/text or white background and
light grey text. As someone who actualy finds looking at a screen with
a white background physically painful, this is somewhat frustrating. I
did look at this a while back as it was the main reason I stopped
ujsing w3 and from memory, it is due to a bad interaction with pages
that have either forced a background colour and don't set any
text/foreground colour and/or conflicts between css settings and 'hard
coded' page settings. Maybe it is time to look at it again.

I also suspect I have to do some MIME tweaking. When using the epub
feature, it works with some epub titles, but fails with others. In
particular, seems to fail with titles generated primarily for the
kindle. With these titles, instead of opening the content, it asks me
where to same the MIME object. Need to investigate further.

Tim


On 8 May 2012 14:09, T. V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> this error has been around for a long time and shouldn't affect anything.
>
>>>>>> "Bart" == Bart Bunting <bart@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>    Bart> Raman, et al, Whilst we are discussing w3 I am seeing
>    Bart> issues when doing a make on the w3 source. It appears
>    Bart> to be related to emacspeak libraries not being found.
>    Bart>
>    Bart> Having said that w3 itself appears to work even with
>    Bart> the error.
>    Bart>
>    Bart> Is this normal?
>    Bart>
>    Bart> I see this both under linux and on my mac.
>    Bart>
>    Bart> Here is the make error:
>    Bart>
>    Bart> bart@xxxxxxxxxxx:~/.emacs.d/src/w3$make cd lisp && make w3
>    Bart> GNUSDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/gnus/
>    Bart> URLDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url/
>    Bart> W3SRCDIR=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./docomp.el
>    Bart> -l
>    Bart> /usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url//url-vars.el
>    Bart> -l ./w3-vars.el -f batch-byte-compile w3-display.el
>    Bart> uncompressing url-vars.el.gz... uncompressing
>    Bart> url-vars.el.gz...done Wrote w3-display.elc
>    Bart> GNUSDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/gnus/
>    Bart> URLDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url/
>    Bart> W3SRCDIR=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./docomp.el
>    Bart> -l
>    Bart> /usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url//url-vars.el
>    Bart> -l ./w3-vars.el -f batch-byte-compile w3-speak.el
>    Bart> uncompressing url-vars.el.gz... uncompressing
>    Bart> url-vars.el.gz...done
>    Bart>
>    Bart> In toplevel form: w3-speak.el:49:1:Error: Cannot open
>    Bart> load file: emacspeak-fix-interactive make[1]: ***
>    Bart> [w3-speak.elc] Error 1 make: *** [w3] Error 2
>    Bart>
>    Bart>
>    Bart> Cheers
>    Bart>
>    Bart> Bart
>    Bart>
>    Bart> "T.V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>    Bart>
>    >> Tim, Per your suggestion, I have checked in
>    >> emacspeak/tvr/tvr-w3.patch --- the patch was created from
>    >> my local snapshot with git diff origin/master
>    >>
>    >> after making sure that git pull -a claimed my local
>    >> snapshot was uptodate.
>    >>
>    >> Glancing at the patch -- I dont see anything significant
>    >> that should make w3 work here and not from the git repo.
>    >>
>    >> The git repo I am refering to is: git config
>    >> remote.origin.url git://git.sv.gnu.org/w3.git
>    >> --
>    >>
>    >> --
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> On 5/7/12, Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>    >>> Hi Raman,
>    >>>
>    >>> I've been attempting to get w3 working and while I've
>    >>> finally got it going, it was not trivial.
>    >>>
>    >>> I think part of the problem is that there has been no
>    >>> updates to the w3 repository since May 2008. I know there
>    >>> has been a couple of patches from you and others to fix
>    >>> various bugs, but hunting them down and applying them is
>    >>> not easy. On this basis, I wanted to make a suggestion.
>    >>>
>    >>> Would it be possible for you to do a diff against the
>    >>> current w3 repository code and the version of w3 you are
>    >>> running and put the diffs in a w3-patches directory
>    >>> within the emacspeak distribution. This would make it
>    >>> esier to anyone wanting to run w3 to apply the same
>    >>> patches you have been using. In addition to making it
>    >>> easier for users, it may help in tracking down problems
>    >>> as we will have a common base everyone is working from.
>    >>>
>    >>> regards,
>    >>>
>    >>> Tim
>    >>>
>    >>>
>    >>> --
>    >>> Tim Cross
>    >>>
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> Best Regards,
> --raman



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Tim Cross

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