Re: Emacspeak in Arch Linux

["D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm not sure I hate arch, it's just a bit confusing.

For one thing I didn't start the gdm service which caused all sorts of problems with the work around sudo systemctrl start gdm which I used.

I have started the gdm service and it is much smoother now.

Tyler - thanks for the link.  I will try that.

I'm sure that I could install emacspeak from source, I've done that many times but Arch was supposted to have package builds - the ones that I have looked at - I guess it was emacspeak-svn says "Package refuses to build" - so that's the frustration.

I'm really surprised how nicely Arch autodetected and installed my Broadcom b43 wireless card during installation.

Anyway, thanks Tyler for the link I most certainly will try that.

Sorry about the OT post - I know most here and you are such a great group, I know my post would get some help.

Thanks again,

David

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Jason White <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Frustrated by Debian Rules which don't allow Firefox and Thunderbird
> because of their logos being copyrighted,, I decided to try Arch Linux.

Debian has Iceweasel and Icedove, which are Firefox and Thunderbird,
respectively, without the trademarked material. I'm currently running
Iceweasel/Firefox 17 here, but this isn't the right mailing list to discuss
that.

>
> Mind you I had found a work around with installing Firefox and Thunderbird,
> but I have heard that the latest GNOME Desktop offers excellent
> accessibility, I went ahead with installing Arch.

It's reputed to be a good distribution.

>
> GNOME came up nicely - except gdm has a bug but I found a work around.
>  ORCA doesn't work, and I wanted to see if there was an easy way with
> Arch's install system to install the current emacspeak from subversion.
>
> What a disappointment.  I think I might try Linux From Scratch after this.

So, you couldn't install Emacspeak for reasons that you don't disclose, you
need help to solve the unspecified problems, and moreover your next proposed
move is to install a distribution that holds your hand even less than Arch and
Debian do? I think with all due respect that this is a really effective road
to frustration under the circumstances and I would advise against it.

I would instead suggest working hard to develop your Linux system
administration skills, which will serve you well with Arch, Debian and other
distributions.

By the way, issues with Arch Linux and Orca have been discussed on the Orca
list and you can find solutions there if you search the archives. If you would
like help to get Emacspeak working then this is the right list on which to
discuss it, but we're not mind readers so you'll have to be very clear about
the technical details of why it won't compile or won't run.

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