Does this mean that 'make install' without the -i parameter will complete without getting "make *** error 1 ***" or there abouts? The messages I saw about section ordering were not preceded with the word "Warning". I can do a new SVN pull this evening when I get home tonight. On 3/30/13, T.V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Good catch:-) > > For the record, the makeinfo warnings from makeinfo version 5.0 > are all mostly noise -- and none of them are real errors. I > suspect makeinfo has gotten too aggressive for its own good, and > is generating false positives -- at least a quick spot check on > its complaints re section ordering turned out to be > incorrect. The changes I made were more a periodic house-cleaning > fixing spell-check issues (make spell will show you what it looks for) >>>>>> "Tim" =3D=3D Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Tim> I just looked at the commit logs for a fresh checkout > Tim> (today) and see there are commits relating to cleanup, > Tim> typo fixes and spelling fixes for the emacspeak > Tim> documents right up until today. this makes me think > Tim> Raman is actively working on stuff in this area right > Tim> now, so I would run regular svn updates to ensure your > Tim> working on current head and not fixing stuff already > Tim> fixed. > Tim>=20 > Tim> Tim > Tim>=20 > Tim>=20 > Tim>=20 > Tim> On 29 March 2013 02:43, Steve Holmes > Tim> <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Tim>=20 > >> OK, I can patch against the SVN version. I get these same > >> errors with both version 37 and latest SVN or at least SVN > >> of a week or so ago. I haven't messed further with this > >> since this thread got under way. > >>=20 > >> On 3/27/13, Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> OK. One thing to do would be ensure you are working on the > >> latest SVN > version. This will make it easier for Raman > >> to add your patches, but more > importantly, ensure your > >> not fixing bugs that ahve already been fixed. > >> > > >> > Tim > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 27 March 2013 16:50, Steve Holmes > >> <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > > >> >> I don't remember their exact text now but it sounded > >> like index levels >> being messed up or some > >> such. Besides, Make errored out and the only way >> I >> > >> was able to get things to move on was to use the '-i ' > >> option and even >> with >> that, the thing only built one > >> .info file and that was the emacspeak >> > >> introduction. emacspeak.info did not even get built. This > >> all occured >> in that one make step. That's why I'm > >> pointing fingers at this part of >> the >> > >> process. Something is broken for sure. > >> >> > >> >> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Tim Cross" > >> <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Just curious. If the messages are not marked as an > >> error or warning, >> what makes >> > you concerned about > >> them and why do you believe they need to be >> > 'fixed'=3F > >> >> > > >> >> > Just wondering if the problem is really about bad > >> texinfo or is it >> something to >> > do with a change in > >> how make-install works. > >> >> > > >> >> > Tim > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Steve Holmes writes: >> >> My first runs over the > >> list didn't see the word, "error" but without >> >> the > >> '-i' option, Make throws the elivated return code and > >> terminates >> >> package building. the first two messages > >> don't say Warning or error >> >> so I'm after them first. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 09:11:55AM +1100, Tim Cross > >> wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Raman normally requests patches go to the list. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Note that I'm not sure how much you need to worry > >> about the warnings. >> These are >> >>> just that, > >> warnings and should not affect creation/compilation of the > >> >> info >> >>> files. I didn't actually see any 'errors' > >> in the list, but only ran >> over it >> >>> quickly, so > >> must have missed them. The warnings I did see looked >> > >> harmless and >> >>> were just alerts regarding possible > >> inconsistencies - just like the >> warnings >> >>> in > >> compiling emacs - best avoided if possible, but not > >> critical. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Tim > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Steve Holmes writes: >> >>>> Well at this point, it > >> isn't unique to Arch Linux since I got it to >> >>>> > >> build. The rest of the package appears fine. It's just the > >> errors >> >>>> in >> >>>> the TexInfo stuff so I will > >> begin playing with that till I can get >> >>>> rid >> >>>> > >> of the errors and warnings. That should get the package to > >> build >> >>>> completely without hacking the Makefile or > >> any of that. I'm still >> >>>> green enough with emacspeak > >> to see some value in the info pages. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> When I get some fixes done, are patches allowed to > >> go to the list or >> >>>> is there a different way to > >> submit fixes=3F > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> On 3/20/13, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> >>>>> Steve Holmes writes: >> >>>>>> Still looking for > >> how to fix the info target to build correctly >> >>>>>> > >> though. I could mess around with the texinfo pages and see > >> if I >> >>>>>> can >> >>>>>> correct the errors myself and > >> provide a patch or something but I >> know >> >>>>>> > >> little about texinfo let alone track down someone else's > >> text >> >>>>>> bugs. > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Sounds like an excellent learning opportunity for > >> you there Steve >> >>>>> :-) > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Seriously though, from your explination, I > >> suspect the problem is >> quite >> >>>>> trivial >> >>>>> > >> and won't be difficult to locate. I don't think we have > >> many arch >> linux >> >>>>> users, >> >>>>> so your > >> contribution to fixing this, in addition to being very >> > >> appreciated, >> >>>>> may >> >>>>> be the only fix we > >> get. Therefore, I hope and encourage you to give >> it a > >> try > >> >> >>>>> - > >> >> >>>>> at the very least, it will mean you avoid the > >> same hack next time >> you have >> >>>>> to >> >>>>> > >> update. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> I personally don't bother doing make install. I > >> run emacspeak from >> the >> >>>>> build >> >>>>> > >> directory and just add the info files to my info path. To > >> be hones, >> it has >> >>>>> been >> >>>>> years since > >> I've even looked at the info files for emacspeak. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Tim > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> -- > >> >> >>>>> Tim Cross >> >>>>> IT Security Manager >> >>>>> > >> Information Technology >> >>>>> University of New England > >> >> >>>>> Phone: +61 2 6773 3210 >> >>>>> Mobile: 0428 > >> 212217 >> >>>>> E-Mail: tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>>> Web: > >> http://www.une.edu.au/itd > >> >> >>>>> --- > >> >> >>>>> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint > >> attachments. >> >>>>> See > >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, > >> and more violent. It >> takes a >> >>>>> touch of genius > >> (and a lot of courage) to move in the opposite >> > >> direction. >> >>>>> =E2=80=94Albert >> Einstein > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >>> Tim Cross >> >>> IT Security Manager >> >>> > >> Information Technology >> >>> University of New England >> > >> >>> Phone: +61 2 6773 3210 >> >>> Mobile: 0428 212217 >> > >> >>> E-Mail: tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> Web: > >> http://www.une.edu.au/itd > >> >> >>> --- > >> >> >>> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint > >> attachments. >> >>> See > >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and > >> more violent. It >> takes a >> >>> touch of genius (and a > >> lot of courage) to move in the opposite >> direction. >> > >> >>> =E2=80=94Albert >> Einstein > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------= > ------------- > >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change > >> your address on the >> >> emacspeak list send mail to > >> "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a >> >> subject of > >> "unsubscribe" or "help". > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Tim Cross >> > IT Security Manager >> > Information > >> Technology >> > University of New England >> > Phone: +61 > >> 2 6773 3210 >> > Mobile: 0428 212217 >> > E-Mail: > >> tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx >> > Web: http://www.une.edu.au/itd > >> >> > --- > >> >> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint > >> attachments. >> > See > >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > >> >> > > >> >> > Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and > >> more violent. It >> takes a >> > touch of genius (and a > >> lot of courage) to move in the opposite >> > direction. >> > >> > =E2=80=94Albert >> Einstein > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------= > ------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your > >> address on the >> emacspeak list send mail to > >> "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a >> subject of > >> "unsubscribe" or "help". > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Tim Cross > >> > > >>=20 > Tim>=20 > Tim>=20 > Tim>=20 > Tim> -- Tim Cross > > -- > Best Regards, > --raman > > -- > Best Regards, > --raman > > -- > Best Regards, > --raman > > > On 3/29/13, Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I just looked at the commit logs for a fresh checkout (today) and see >> there >> are commits relating to cleanup, typo fixes and spelling fixes for the >> emacspeak documents right up until today. this makes me think Raman is >> actively working on stuff in this area right now, so I would run regular >> svn updates to ensure your working on current head and not fixing stuff >> already fixed. >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> On 29 March 2013 02:43, Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> OK, I can patch against the SVN version. I get these same errors with >>> both version 37 and latest SVN or at least SVN of a week or so ago. I >>> haven't messed further with this since this thread got under way. >>> >>> On 3/27/13, Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > OK. One thing to do would be ensure you are working on the latest SVN >>> > version. This will make it easier for Raman to add your patches, but >>> > more >>> > importantly, ensure your not fixing bugs that ahve already been fixed. >>> > >>> > Tim >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 27 March 2013 16:50, Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I don't remember their exact text now but it sounded like index >>> >> levels >>> >> being messed up or some such. Besides, Make errored out and the only >>> way >>> >> I >>> >> was able to get things to move on was to use the '-i ' option and >>> >> even >>> >> with >>> >> that, the thing only built one .info file and that was the emacspeak >>> >> introduction. emacspeak.info did not even get built. This all >>> >> occured >>> >> in that one make step. That's why I'm pointing fingers at this part >>> >> of >>> >> the >>> >> process. Something is broken for sure. >>> >> >>> >> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Tim Cross" <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > Just curious. If the messages are not marked as an error or >>> >> > warning, >>> >> what makes >>> >> > you concerned about them and why do you believe they need to be >>> >> > 'fixed'? >>> >> > >>> >> > Just wondering if the problem is really about bad texinfo or is it >>> >> something to >>> >> > do with a change in how make-install works. >>> >> > >>> >> > Tim >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Steve Holmes writes: >>> >> >> My first runs over the list didn't see the word, "error" but >>> >> >> without >>> >> >> the '-i' option, Make throws the elivated return code and >>> >> >> terminates >>> >> >> package building. the first two messages don't say Warning or >>> >> >> error >>> >> >> so I'm after them first. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 09:11:55AM +1100, Tim Cross wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Raman normally requests patches go to the list. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Note that I'm not sure how much you need to worry about the >>> warnings. >>> >> These are >>> >> >>> just that, warnings and should not affect creation/compilation of >>> the >>> >> info >>> >> >>> files. I didn't actually see any 'errors' in the list, but only >>> >> >>> ran >>> >> over it >>> >> >>> quickly, so must have missed them. The warnings I did see looked >>> >> harmless and >>> >> >>> were just alerts regarding possible inconsistencies - just like >>> >> >>> the >>> >> warnings >>> >> >>> in compiling emacs - best avoided if possible, but not critical. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Tim >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Steve Holmes writes: >>> >> >>>> Well at this point, it isn't unique to Arch Linux since I got it >>> >> >>>> to >>> >> >>>> build. The rest of the package appears fine. It's just the >>> >> >>>> errors >>> >> >>>> in >>> >> >>>> the TexInfo stuff so I will begin playing with that till I can >>> >> >>>> get >>> >> >>>> rid >>> >> >>>> of the errors and warnings. That should get the package to >>> >> >>>> build >>> >> >>>> completely without hacking the Makefile or any of that. I'm >>> >> >>>> still >>> >> >>>> green enough with emacspeak to see some value in the info pages. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> When I get some fixes done, are patches allowed to go to the >>> >> >>>> list >>> or >>> >> >>>> is there a different way to submit fixes? >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> On 3/20/13, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >> >>>>> Steve Holmes writes: >>> >> >>>>>> Still looking for how to fix the info target to build >>> >> >>>>>> correctly >>> >> >>>>>> though. I could mess around with the texinfo pages and see if >>> >> >>>>>> I >>> >> >>>>>> can >>> >> >>>>>> correct the errors myself and provide a patch or something but >>> >> >>>>>> I >>> >> know >>> >> >>>>>> little about texinfo let alone track down someone else's text >>> >> >>>>>> bugs. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Sounds like an excellent learning opportunity for you there >>> >> >>>>> Steve >>> >> >>>>> :-) >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Seriously though, from your explination, I suspect the problem >>> >> >>>>> is >>> >> quite >>> >> >>>>> trivial >>> >> >>>>> and won't be difficult to locate. I don't think we have many >>> >> >>>>> arch >>> >> linux >>> >> >>>>> users, >>> >> >>>>> so your contribution to fixing this, in addition to being very >>> >> appreciated, >>> >> >>>>> may >>> >> >>>>> be the only fix we get. Therefore, I hope and encourage you to >>> give >>> >> it a try >>> >> >>>>> - >>> >> >>>>> at the very least, it will mean you avoid the same hack next >>> >> >>>>> time >>> >> you have >>> >> >>>>> to >>> >> >>>>> update. >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> I personally don't bother doing make install. I run emacspeak >>> >> >>>>> from >>> >> the >>> >> >>>>> build >>> >> >>>>> directory and just add the info files to my info path. To be >>> hones, >>> >> it has >>> >> >>>>> been >>> >> >>>>> years since I've even looked at the info files for emacspeak. >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Tim >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> -- >>> >> >>>>> Tim Cross >>> >> >>>>> IT Security Manager >>> >> >>>>> Information Technology >>> >> >>>>> University of New England >>> >> >>>>> Phone: +61 2 6773 3210 >>> >> >>>>> Mobile: 0428 212217 >>> >> >>>>> E-Mail: tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >>>>> Web: http://www.une.edu.au/itd >>> >> >>>>> --- >>> >> >>>>> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. >>> >> >>>>> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more >>> >> >>>>> violent. >>> It >>> >> takes a >>> >> >>>>> touch of genius (and a lot of courage) to move in the opposite >>> >> direction. >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> —Albert >>> >> Einstein >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> Tim Cross >>> >> >>> IT Security Manager >>> >> >>> Information Technology >>> >> >>> University of New England >>> >> >>> Phone: +61 2 6773 3210 >>> >> >>> Mobile: 0428 212217 >>> >> >>> E-Mail: tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >>> Web: http://www.une.edu.au/itd >>> >> >>> --- >>> >> >>> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. >>> >> >>> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. >>> >> >>> It >>> >> takes a >>> >> >>> touch of genius (and a lot of courage) to move in the opposite >>> >> direction. >>> >> >>> —Albert >>> >> Einstein >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with >>> >> >> a >>> >> >> subject of "unsubscribe" or "help". >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Tim Cross >>> >> > IT Security Manager >>> >> > Information Technology >>> >> > University of New England >>> >> > Phone: +61 2 6773 3210 >>> >> > Mobile: 0428 212217 >>> >> > E-Mail: tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> > Web: http://www.une.edu.au/itd >>> >> > --- >>> >> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. >>> >> > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >>> >> > >>> >> > Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It >>> >> takes a >>> >> > touch of genius (and a lot of courage) to move in the opposite >>> >> > direction. >>> >> > —Albert >>> >> Einstein >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the >>> >> emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a >>> >> subject of "unsubscribe" or "help". >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Tim Cross >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tim Cross >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help".
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