RE: hyper key help

[Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

If what we get in Gnome is anything like the nice, seamless support for
pdf's we get in Windows in most cases, I will be overjoyed.  While I'm sure
it uses the same libraries as you say, doing the pdf2txt thing is rather
cumbersome unless you can write code and can script.  What will be really
exciting is when interactive pdf is supported in Linux.  I am encountering
it more and more these days.  Earlier this year, I had to fil out a leave of
absence form sent to me in PDF.  I couldn't figure out how to do it in
Linux so, I had to use Windows.  

Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: T. V. Raman [mailto:tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:28 AM
To: alex.midence@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx; robdcraw@xxxxxxxxxxx; emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: hyper key help


"hacks to read pdf" go away when gnome3 supports tagged pdf --
sure:-)

the "hacks" you refer to   so lightly e.g. pdf2txt -- use the
same underlying mechanisms and libraries that gnome3  uses for tagged PDF
-- you wont getting anything more or anything less. Use what works for you
by all means -- 
>>>>> "Alex" == Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Alex> Honestly, I only run Emacs in the console. I don't run
    Alex> it in X. I've never had much luck making it do what I
    Alex> wanted in X. I have never heard of Stumpwm. Sounds like
    Alex> a plain Jane window manager with nothing else in the
    Alex> way of supporting desktop applications. Nice if you
    Alex> have a minimalist philosophy, I suppose. I like too
    Alex> many of the applications that come with Gnome to give
    Alex> it up. Besides, they are introducing honest-to-God PDF
    Alex> support with this upcoming version and actual tagged
    Alex> pdf support in Gnome 3.12. The day of using hacks to
    Alex> read a PDF in Linux are almost at an end for screen
    Alex> reader users. Don't see how I could ever stop using it
    Alex> now.
    Alex> 
    Alex> Alex M
    Alex> 
    Alex> -----Original Message----- From: T. V. Raman
    Alex> [mailto:tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, August 23,
    Alex> 2013 8:43 AM To: robdcraw@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc:
    Alex> emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: hyper key help
    Alex> 
    Alex> Sorry to hear about the gnome3 pains -- afraid I cant
    Alex> help much -- I completely eliminated gnome and just run
    Alex> stumpwm as a tiling window manager, with Emacs in one
    Alex> window and Chrome/ChromeVox in the other.
    >>>>>> "Robert" == Robert D Crawford <robdcraw@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    >>>>>> writes:
    Robert> Hello all, I am at a loss as to how to proceed and
    Robert> I'm hoping someone can assist.
    Robert> 
    Robert> I'm trying to give GNOME 3 a chance on my new
    Robert> install. It makes use of the Super key, so I thought
    Robert> I would assign hyper to be my "emacs" key. I've used
    Robert> this .Xmodmap file:
    Robert> 
    Robert> ! No Caps Lock clear lock keycode 66 = Hyper_L !
    Robert> keysym Caps_Lock = Hyper_L clear mod3 add Mod3 =
    Robert> Hyper_L
    Robert> 
    Robert> 
    Robert> and the result, according to xmodmap is:
    Robert> 
    Robert> rdc@xxxxxxxxxxx:~$ xmodmap xmodmap: up to 4 keys per
    Robert> modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
    Robert> 
    Robert> shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lock Hyper_L
    Robert> (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x69)
    Robert> mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x6c), Meta_L (0xcd) mod2
    Robert> Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4 Super_L (0x85), Super_R
    Robert> (0x86), Super_L (0xce), Hyper_L (0xcf) mod5
    Robert> ISO_Level3_Shift (0x5c), Mode_switch (0xcb)
    Robert> 
    Robert> rdc@xxxxxxxxxxx:~$
    Robert> 
    Robert> but emacs still thinks it is a super key, giving me
    Robert> the response "Cap x is bound to self-insert
    Robert> character." The lock is gone, but nothing else. In
    Robert> addition, why is the mod3 line blank? Any ideas?
    Robert> 
    Robert> Concerning GNOME 3, I'm not terribly impressed. I
    Robert> make use of the magnifier and the one baked into
    Robert> gnome shell is shite. The movement is not smooth at
    Robert> all and if I try to change the shortcut it only
    Robert> rarely works. When I don't change the shortcut
    Robert> sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I can't
    Robert> seem to figure out in what instances it doesn't work,
    Robert> so I can't really request help, but I might try. I
    Robert> was a long-time user of compiz and the magnification
    Robert> was infinitely smoother and more configurable. I
    Robert> would have hoped that by the 5th release of gnome
    Robert> shell it would have been at least comparable. Alas,
    Robert> it is not so. My next step, I think, is to install
    Robert> XFCE and compiz.
    Robert> 
    Robert> Sorry for the rant, but thanks for listening.
    Robert> 
    Robert> Best regards, rdc -- Robert D. Crawford
    Robert> robdcraw@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Robert> 
    Robert> 
    Alex>
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    Alex> -- Best Regards, --raman
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