Re: Error trying to run w3

["Robert D. Crawford" <robdcraw@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Alex,

Thanks for the info.  I'll get around to playing with espeak as soon as
I get a chance.  I saw mention on the orca or vinux list concerning
making espeak sound much like outloud.  I've heard the voices that start
with Kre... maybe Krepps or Krebs but I've  not really checked them
out.  Later I'll have the time to explore more.

Thanks again for the info
rdc

Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Hi, Robert,
>
> You can get better sound out of E-speak if you play around with the voices.
> Male 4, for instance, uses much fewer higher frequencies than the e-speak
> default voice does making it much easier on the ears over long periods of
> listening.  
>
> Alex M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert D. Crawford [mailto:robdcraw@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:09 AM
> To: Tim Cross
> Cc: tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx; emacspeak list
> Subject: Re: Error trying to run w3
>
> Thanks Tim.  This did the trick.  All my circuits are functional.  I really
> wish a synth could be developed that had the same functionality and
> responsiveness as outloud and sounded as good.  I don't have a problem
> understanding espeak, and I do appreciate the work that has gone into it,
> but I have a hard time listening to it for extended periods. 
>
> Best regards,
> rdc
>
> "Tim Cross" <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> I find the various different approaches and bits of advice more 
>> confusing than helpful when it comes to getting viavoice outloud 
>> working on a 64 bit system. This is partly because the different Linux 
>> distros tend to handle 32 bit binaries on a 64 bit system a little 
>> differently. Also, things can get complicated if you also want to run
>> 64 bit tcl apps. Here is how I basically do it. (I tend to stick with 
>> Debian/Ubuntu based distros)
>>
>> 1. Install viavoice using the voxin package. This will usually install 
>> most of the necessary 32 bit libs
>>
>> 2. Move the atcleci.so library from the lib directory within the 
>> servers/linux-outloud directory into the linux-outloud directory
>>
>> 3. Run the outloud script form the servers directory. You will 
>> probably get some errors - nearly always about missing libs. You just 
>> need to work through the process of installing these. Often the first 
>> missing lib is the 32 bit version of tcl and tclx. I install them.
>> Depending on your platform and whether you need both 64 and 32 bit 
>> versions, you may need to change the interpreter name listed at the 
>> top of the outloud script so that it calls the correct version of tcl.
>> For example, on my system, I've installed the 8.5 version of the 64 
>> bit Tcl and Tclx libs which I use for 64 bit stuff (it is linked to 
>> tclsh as the default) and I install the 8.4 version of the 32 bit tcl 
>> and tclx libs. I then have to change the interpreter line at the top 
>> of the outloud script to /usr/bin/tclsh8.4 to make sure this script is 
>> using the 32 bit version of tcl.
>>
>> The next thing which often needs to be installed is a 32 bit version 
>> of the stdc++ lib. I just install that using apt-get and ensuring I 
>> specify the i386 version.
>>
>> Sometimes, depending on the distro and its version, I may need to 
>> install the 32 bit version of asound library plugins. At any rate, the 
>> trick is to try running ./outloud on the command line after each new 
>> bit is added until you hear outloud working. If it doesn't work, you 
>> normally get a meaningful error message which tells you what library 
>> it cannot load. Just follow the dots until all dependencies have been 
>> met. Don't forget using things like ldd to see what libs are linked 
>> against and where they are looking for files etc.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Robert D. Crawford writes:
>>  > I upgraded the installation and that particular error seems to have  
>> > disappeared.  I have gotten another problem which I will include here.
>>  >
>>  > After installation I am no longer able to use 32-outloud.  I get 
>> the  > dreaded "Process speaker not running."  Outloud was installed 
>> from  > Gilles voxin package.  This is also from where I initially 
>> installed  > emacspeak.  Outloud was working then and is still working
> under orca.
>>  > When I try
>>  >
>>  > ./32-outloud
>>  >
>>  > I get the following errors:
>>  >
>>  > rdc@xxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers$ 
>> ./32-outloud  > couldn't load file "/usr/lib32/libtclx8.4.so.0":
> /usr/lib32/libtclx8.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory
>>  >     while executing
>>  > "load /usr/lib32/libtclx8.4.so.0"
>>  >     (file "./32-outloud" line 45)
>>  > rdc@xxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers$
>>  >
>>  > When I try using the method described in the Makefile I get this:
>>  >
>>  > rdc@xxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers$ tcl 
>> ./32-outloud  > No command 'tcl' found, did you mean:
>>  > SNIP
>>  > tcl: command not found
>>  > rdc@xxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers$
>>  >
>>  > I assumed the correct tcl(x) libraries were installed with voxin,  
>> > perhaps I am wrong.  I was also under the assumption that the 
>> 32-outloud  > is a precompiled server for use on 64-bit systems.  I 
>> have ensured the  > DTK environment variables have been set but I 
>> don't know what else to  > do.
>>  >
>>  > Best regards,
>>  > rdc
>>  >
>>  > "T. V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>  >
>>  > > Robert,
>>  > >
>>  > > Not sure why you're hitting a recursive include on  that module.
>>  > >
>>  > > Thanks for pointing out the uncommented timestamp line by the way  
>> > > -- I fixed it in svn.  Could you please update from svn, do a  > > 
>> make clean, make config and make?
>>  >
>>  > -- 
>>  > Robert D. Crawford
> robdcraw@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>  >
>>  > 
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