Re: [Emacspeak] Question: what voice do you use on MacOS to be able to tell differences in pitch?

[Parham Doustdar <parham90@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Robert,
Sure! I’ll paste the log below. Also, as far as I remember, I haven’t modified anything about Emacspeak’s behaviour in org-mode. If you like to play with this on your own machine, open a new buffer (using `C-x b temp <RET> <RET>’ to create a new buffer called “temp”), do `M-x org-mode <RET>’ and paste the line I shared in my very first email in this thread. That should let you experience your changes in real time.
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tts_sync_state all 1 0 250
c {[{voice systemDefault}] }
c { [[pmod 84.6]]  [{echo 1 1 60 0.3}]  }
q {aw 3 * }
c {[{voice systemDefault}] }
c { [[pmod 84.6]]  [{echo 1 1 60 0.3}]  }
c {[{voice systemDefault}] }
c { [[pbas 35]]  [[pmod 112.8]]  [{echo 1 1 80 0.3}]   [[pmod 84.6]]  [{echo 1 1 60 0.3}]  }
q {TODO }
c {[{voice systemDefault}] }
c { [[pmod 84.6]]  [{echo 1 1 60 0.3}]  }
q { Book a time on their  }
c {[{voice systemDefault}] }
c { [[pbas 35]]  [{echo 1 1 60 0.3}]   [[pmod 84.6]]  [{echo 1 1 60 0.3}]  }
q {calendar }
c {[{voice systemDefault}] }
c { [[pmod 84.6]]  [{echo 1 1 60 0.3}]  }
c {[{voice systemDefault}] }
c { [{echo 1 1 40 0.3}]   [[pmod 84.6]]  [{echo 1 1 60 0.3}]  }
q {:week: }
c {[{voice systemDefault}] }
d
s
—end of paste—
Hope this helps!

> On 29 Feb 2024, at 17:37, Robert Melton <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Oh, that sounds like a bug not just a difference.  Thanks for the recording, since I don't have
> the same cool org-mode stuff you do, could you share the log messages for sending that
> sentense (maybe with the one before and after).  Feels like the proper behavior is what 
> the mac server is doing, so I need to find where and why swiftmac is not producing a 
> large enough pitch shift. 
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2024, at 10:14, Parham Doustdar <parham90@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Robert,
>> Yes, I do, although this is partly to the pause that the Mac speech server inserts when processing these commands.
>> I’ve attached a recording to this email of the differences in case that helps.
>> <20240229 1605 Recording.mp3>
>> 
>>> On 29 Feb 2024, at 13:37, Robert Melton <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Parham--
>>> 
>>> At the same speed with the mac server do you hear the pitch shift more? 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 29, 2024, at 05:59, Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I’m using the Alex voice with Emacspeak. However, I notice that I can’t tell differences in pitch since using Swiftmac because there is no pause in between chunks with different pitches.
>>>> As an example, try this text in an org-mode buffer with the rate set to 250:
>>>> *** TODO Book a time on their [[https://www.dinerspel.nl/beschikbaarheid_in_stappen][calendar]] :week:
>>>> You’ll probably not hear much of a difference in pitch. In fact, the only reason I figured this out was looking at the swiftmac log. Now, if you slow the speech server down a lot, for example to 180 or even 150, you will hear a barely perceptible pitch change, but not large enough to be noticeable.
>>>> I’ve noticed that if the text is multiple words, it’s easier for me to notice the change in pitch, but if it’s just one word like “TODO” or “calendar” above, I easily miss it.
>>>> Do others have this issue as well, or am I losing my hearing? 😭
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