Re: Emacspeak 13.0

["T. V. Raman" <ramantv@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Note that our messages are crossing --see my earlier note
regarding emacs 20.7 and emacs 21.

Here is probably what is happening:

Look in file emacspeak-speak.el 
-- line 2053 
-- it defines function emacspeak-speak-current-field 
and there are two variations depending on availability of
function field-beginning.
Try evaluating the alternative by positioning point on the
closing paran of the defun and hitting C-x C-e 
>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    Tim> OK, I tried a couple of things -

    Tim> 1. Did an rpm -e emacspeak and an rm -rf
    Tim> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak and then an
    Tim> rpm -i of the emacspeak-13.0 rpm. Still the same
    Tim> behavior with truncated minibuffer prompts.

    Tim> 2. Removed it all again and did a build from the
    Tim> emacspeak tarball in the src rpm (didn't do an rpm
    Tim> --rebuild as I wanted to control the config and
    Tim> building myself). Still the same behavior with the
    Tim> truncated minibuffer prompts.

    Tim> Now, I didn't have this behavior with emacspeak 12,
    Tim> so it has to be something thats changed in
    Tim> emacspeak 13 as thats the only thing which has
    Tim> changed on the two systems I've installed emacspeak
    Tim> 13 on and see this truncation of minibuffer
    Tim> prompts. I had a look at some of the functions
    Tim> relating to the minibuffer in emacspeak-advice, but
    Tim> couldn't see any difference between them and those
    Tim> in emacspeak-12 (though I didn't do a diff and
    Tim> could have missed something). There is no changelog
    Tim> in the distributions, so I'm not even sure
    Tim> where/what has been changed between 12 and 13, so
    Tim> I''m not sure where to start. As I mentioned
    Tim> before, this is not a major problem, but I would
    Tim> prefer to have the full minibuffer prompts if
    Tim> possible. If its not too complex (and if you can
    Tim> remember), do you have any idea of what might have
    Tim> changed between versions 12 and 13 which would
    Tim> affect the prompts? As it works under version 12 of
    Tim> emacspeak running under emacs 20.7, unless there
    Tim> has been major re-working of the code, it should be
    Tim> possible to get it to work the same way under 13.

    Tim> With respect to the use of the sawfish stuff you
    Tim> mentioned a file called sawfish.el which provides
    Tim> the interface between emacs/sawfish. I don't have
    Tim> this file, can you provide a URL where I can get
    Tim> it?

    Tim> thanks

    Tim> Tim T. V. Raman writes:
    >> I've not run emacs 20.7 --what I have is 20.6 --as I
    >> said the problem you describe exists on my emacs 21
    >> pre-test --so it might well be something that slipped
    >> in in
    >> 20.7.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    >> writes:
    >> 
    Tim> Just following up on the truncated minibuffer
    Tim> prompts -
    >>
    Tim> I'm running emacs 20.7, both outloud and the
    Tim> decTalk synths exhibit this behavior. I installed
    Tim> emacspeak from the rpm (Redhat 6.2 with all updates
    Tim> applied, linux kernel 2.2.17.
    >>
    Tim> I have tried running emacspeak with -q so that my
    Tim> .emacs is not loaded and still get the same
    Tim> behavior (with outloud at least - will ahve to wait
    Tim> til I get to work to try it with the decTalk
    Tim> express.
    >>
    Tim> After work I will attempt re-installing the rpm in
    Tim> a clean directory (not over my previous install)
    Tim> and if that doesn't work I will try re-making the
    Tim> sources and installing them. I'll let you know what
    Tim> I find out.  -- Tim Cross NorthNet Internet
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