Re: New member. Questions about Emacspeak under RedHat... Customising ?

[Jerry Sievers <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

matthew, your post landed in my junk email folder due to your
mentioning windows too many times.  i'm serious, i've got procmail
recipes in place for that.

well, against my better judjement, i read it anyway.

i'd like to suggest that you flush the idea of customizing emacspeak
and invest this time in continuing your study of the written docs.
read everything that came with emacspeak, go on to the emacs info
docs, spend a minimum of a few days on the list archive too.

all i heard you say was like, how can i make emacspeak work like JAWS.
ha ha!  that's not going to win the favor of the wizard folks on this
list.

this concludes my sermon of the day.  thank you.

>From: "Mirabella, Mathew J" <Mathew.Mirabella@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:06:09 +1100
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>Hi All. I am a new member to the Emacspeak list, and am also quite new to Emacs,
>Emacspeak and Linux. I have a Windows 2000 Professional machine with Jaws 4.01 and I have just
>installed a Red Hat Linux 7.2 boot partition on my computer. I have
>installed the Emacspeak software, and am trying to learn how it works. I have a few questions The more help people can send me the better.
>I am a novice with Linux and am not comfortable with hacking in that
>environment as yet. My questions may seem naive to some, but please bare with me. I have done a
>little reading (i.e.. the howto) and know a few basic things. So Here
>goes How can I customize the Emacspeak voice? I know that there is a group
>called accessibility and a group called emacspeak in the custom section (M-x
>customize). But is there an easier way to customize the speech? I am using
>the speech synthesizer that comes with Emacspeak, not an external synth. There are other emacspeak packages like W3 and VM (for mail) that do not
>come with Emacspeak? Is there a way I can download them all at once rather
>than one at a time? Since I am using Red Hat, maybe there are RPMs? I have also downloaded Emacs for Windows and XEmacs for Windows. Can I get
>a version of Emacspeak to work under Windows 2000? The XEmacspeak came as a
>self installation wizard, and I think I got a lot of the packages like W3 as
>part of that installation - I am not sure since I cannot get them to work
>well. Some people have told me that Emacspeak does not work under XEmacs,
>but others have said that it should now. For those who are interested, the Jaws cursor can be used to read the
>contents of an XEmacs or Emacs buffer under Windows. I would also like to know if you can customize the keyboard commands in
>emacs / emacspeak so that they imitate the way that Windows and PC text
>editors behave. That is, home for start of line, end for end of line, arrow
>keys for moving (although this works) shift and move to highlight, ctrl-c
>for cut, ctrl-v for paste etc, ctrl-s for save. This sort of thing would be
>most useful for me, since I have useful vision and often use a section of
>highlighted text to show me where the cursor is. I do find the emacs
>keystrokes a bit fiddly. I have read a bit on the advantages of an audio desktop rather than a screen
>reader. I understand the concept, but my experience with Emacspeak has not
>yet revealed to me the advantages of the features that Emacspeak offers.
>That is, in the customize application, it is difficult to navigate around
>and find the links. Although I am impressed with the voice changes to
>identify links and formatting. Can anyone enlighten me? One further question on customizing. I would like the emacspeak voice to
>respond a little quicker to keystrokes. When I move up and down in a
>buffer, the voice follows the keystrokes but lags behind a little so that a
>few of the words from the previous line are spoken before the voice catches
>up to the cursor position. I can press "down" (C-n) a few times quickly and
>see the cursor move up a few lines, but because the voice lags behind, the
>voice does not give any indication that I have moved more than one line - it
>simply eventually starts reading the line on the final cursor position. In
>Jaws 4.01 for Windows, I can scroll up and down rather quickly, and the
>voice keeps up. Is there a way to customize the emacspeak voice to do the
>job faster too? I know you can increase the rate, but this does not solve
>the problem that I am talking about. I also know you can change an option
>for immediate voice interrupt, but that is on by default. I also have little questions about how the buffers work. For example, when
>using C-x 1, does it actually close all other buffers, or just put others in
>the background? I know that when I use C-b to list buffers, old ones that I
>thought I had closed appear in the list. DO you really have to find a file
>again if you have it already open in a buffer? Is there a way you can just
>alt-tab between full-screen sized buffers for example? I have heard many great things about Emacs and Emacspeak and also Linux. I
>would like to learn more and use these tools more effectively. If anyone
>can help, it would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards, Mat To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the
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