Re: Emacspeak with gmail

[Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm curious of one thing.  Now that vm has been improved in the IMAP
area, which mail clients do people prefer these days - vm or gnus? I
recall gnus having IMAP support for years but I just found gnus
difficult to configure and get setup properly.  I used to use gnus and
vm many years ago before I used emacspeak and thenit was all fetchmail
and POP stuff.

What do people think now?  I presently use mutt and thunderbird but
wouldn't mind messing with vm again.  I used to like that program in
the past.  But I do like mutt's integrated PGP support and the ability
to skip over top-quoted messages.  I can't think of any mailer that
allows one to skip over top-quoted stuff other than mutt.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:17:39AM +1100, Tim Cross wrote:
> Fetchmail and gmail work fine. Another alternative is to just use VM's
> direct imap support. Uday Reddy has put a fair amount of work into improving
> VM's support for imap and has added things like header-only downloads and
> message caching etc to try and make it faster. I've found it pretty good for
> moderate sized mail folders. I use gmail filters as much as possible to
> ensure mail is broken up into lots of smaller folders rather than just one
> big folder. You can access different imap folders from within VM.
> 
> The big advantage of doing this is you get a consistent message state
> tracking. You know which messages are new, unread, replied to etc as VM will
> update such attributes on gmail. You cannot have this with the fetchmail
> approach.
> 
> The big disadvantage is that if you get a large number of messages or you
> are on a slow or unreliable network connection, Emacs can appear to freeze
> for a time when retrieving messages. I've not found this an issue myself,
> but have seen reports from others regarding this. I guess it is an
> unavoidable consequence of Emacs' lack of threading support.
> 
> What I have not tried yet is configuring VM to use gmail as its smtp server.
> This is possible and further enhances interaction with gmail by tracking
> contacts and sent mail in one place.
> 
> Tim
> 
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:00 PM, T.V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Jason makes a good point.
> >
> > The emacspeak url template for gmail was created before imap
> > support went liv from memory. I personally  use fetchmail with
> > imap and then read email using vm; I use the web interface mostly
> > for searches. Haven't played with NotMuch
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > --raman
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > --raman
> >
> >
> > On 1/21/11, Jason White <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > It's also worth noting that if you want a mail system based on searches
> > and
> > > tags, similar in concept to the Gmail Web interface, you can use Notmuch
> > > (http://notmuchmail.org/), basic code for better supporting which in
> > > Emacspeak
> > > was posted a while ago on this list.
> > >
> > > I am still waiting for a few significant features to be implemented
> > before I
> > > consider making the transition.
> > >
> > > Note that you could use Fetchmail or OfflineIMAP to retrieve the mail
> > from a
> > > GMail account, and that Notmuch over ssh is also possible according to
> > > mailing
> > > list posts, in the event that you want to use another Linux machine as
> > your
> > > server with a laptop as the client.
> > >
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