Re: Emacspeak with gmail

["D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I love alpine - it configures with gmail IMAP and SMTP to send flawlessly and if you wish it can open your favorite web browser for links.

Unfortunately for many web browsers except for the big ones don't work for Internet banking, many blind and visually disabled people find text browsers less confusing to use when listening to a text to speech engine and entering text with a keyboard - and avoiding the cursed mouse at all costs!

Maybe w3-el will some day be able to help us use Internet banking!

After all, emacspeak does everything else - and even more than I use.

Best to all,

David J. Ring, Jr., N1EA
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm curious of one thing.  Now that vm has been improved in the IMAP
area, which mail clients do people prefer these days - vm or gnus? I
recall gnus having IMAP support for years but I just found gnus
difficult to configure and get setup properly.  I used to use gnus and
vm many years ago before I used emacspeak and thenit was all fetchmail
and POP stuff.

What do people think now?  I presently use mutt and thunderbird but
wouldn't mind messing with vm again.  I used to like that program in
the past.  But I do like mutt's integrated PGP support and the ability
to skip over top-quoted messages.  I can't think of any mailer that
allows one to skip over top-quoted stuff other than mutt.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:17:39AM +1100, Tim Cross wrote:
> Fetchmail and gmail work fine. Another alternative is to just use VM's
> direct imap support. Uday Reddy has put a fair amount of work into improving
> VM's support for imap and has added things like header-only downloads and
> message caching etc to try and make it faster. I've found it pretty good for
> moderate sized mail folders. I use gmail filters as much as possible to
> ensure mail is broken up into lots of smaller folders rather than just one
> big folder. You can access different imap folders from within VM.
>
> The big advantage of doing this is you get a consistent message state
> tracking. You know which messages are new, unread, replied to etc as VM will
> update such attributes on gmail. You cannot have this with the fetchmail
> approach.
>
> The big disadvantage is that if you get a large number of messages or you
> are on a slow or unreliable network connection, Emacs can appear to freeze
> for a time when retrieving messages. I've not found this an issue myself,
> but have seen reports from others regarding this. I guess it is an
> unavoidable consequence of Emacs' lack of threading support.
>
> What I have not tried yet is configuring VM to use gmail as its smtp server.
> This is possible and further enhances interaction with gmail by tracking
> contacts and sent mail in one place.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:00 PM, T.V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jason makes a good point.
> >
> > The emacspeak url template for gmail was created before imap
> > support went liv from memory. I personally  use fetchmail with
> > imap and then read email using vm; I use the web interface mostly
> > for searches. Haven't played with NotMuch
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > --raman
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > --raman
> >
> >
> > On 1/21/11, Jason White <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > It's also worth noting that if you want a mail system based on searches
> > and
> > > tags, similar in concept to the Gmail Web interface, you can use Notmuch
> > > (http://notmuchmail.org/), basic code for better supporting which in
> > > Emacspeak
> > > was posted a while ago on this list.
> > >
> > > I am still waiting for a few significant features to be implemented
> > before I
> > > consider making the transition.
> > >
> > > Note that you could use Fetchmail or OfflineIMAP to retrieve the mail
> > from a
> > > GMail account, and that Notmuch over ssh is also possible according to
> > > mailing
> > > list posts, in the event that you want to use another Linux machine as
> > your
> > > server with a laptop as the client.
> > >
> > >
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