Re: Emacspeak ignores custom values from the .emacs file

[Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

So far, using org-mode seems to work well. I’m still tweaking it a bit to get it right, but essentially, you can define your elisp blocks so that when you generate the code from the file, it will put various blocks in different *.el files. In my setup, I have a directory in .emacs.d called ‘lisp’ where all my *.el files go - for example, I have init-emacspeak.el

In my .emacs.d directory, I have an init.org file and an init.el file. The init.el file and the *.el files in the lisp directory are all generated from the init.org file. The init.el file is essentially just some basic setup code i.e. setting load-path etc and then a whole bunch of require statements which load files from the lisp directory. 

I will try to find time to clean up my init.org file and will then ut it up on github in case anyone wants to have a look at it. However, emacspeak users will need to recognise that my setup is a bit more complex than most users will need and has a lot of additional packages which many probably won’t want. Provided people use it just as a guide and not a canned configuration file, I’m happy for people to use whatever they want from it. I will not be in a position to help debug any problems people run into.

I have also included an experimental ‘get me out of trouble’ feature, which should allow easy startup of emacs with emacspeak in a minimal configuration - the idea being that if you break things, you have an escape hatch to get basic functionality back. 

regards,

Tim

Tim Cross

IT Security Manager

Information Technology Directorate

University of New England
Armidale N.S.W. 2351 Australia

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On 11 Jun 2015, at 12:04 am, T. V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That's good to hear -- re org -- have been planning to do
something like that for myself -- just haven't had the time. My
.custom file keeps corrupting itself and I started keeping it
under git control -- but that doesn't help much either. A giant
custom file basically becomes a single-point of failure -- it's
like the Windows Registry:-)

"Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

   Tim> ?Hi Victor, I think Raman hit the nail on the head - the
   Tim> dtk speech settings, such as speech rate, are a little
   Tim> different and need to be setup as part of the startup
   Tim> hook. Have a look at his settings in the tvr directory
   Tim> for good examples. I moved away from using the custom
   Tim> stuff, preferring to do it manually. In fact, I recently
   Tim> moved to using org-mode with babel and now keep all my
   Tim> emacs config in a file called init.org and use org modes
   Tim> babel support to export the relevant bits as *.el files
   Tim> in my .emacs.d directory. Quite like using this literate
   Tim> programming approach to maintaining my configuration as
   Tim> it provides more background/notes on why certain
   Tim> configuraitons are done in certain ways.
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> Tim
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> -- Tim Cross IT Security Manager Information Technology
   Tim> Directorate University of New England Armidale NSW 2351
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   Tim> Phone: +61 2 6773 3210 Mobile: +61 428 212 217 Email:
   Tim> tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From:
   Tim> Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, 10
   Tim> June 2015 2:18 PM To: Tim Cross Cc: emacspeak Subject:
   Tim> Re: Emacspeak ignores custom values from the .emacs file
   Tim> 
   Tim> Hello TIm. All of your assumptions are correct. I set
   Tim> custom values from the Easy Customization wizards,
   Tim> Emacspeak is loaded from the first line of my .emacs
   Tim> file and c-e c-s does not make any difference in my
   Tim> scenario.
   Tim> 
   Tim> Thanks, Victor
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Tim Cross
   Tim> <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
   Tim> wrote: Hi Victor,
   Tim> 
   Tim> we probably need a bit more info as there are different
   Tim> ways of doing this.
   Tim> 
   Tim> Can you clarify - are you using emacs custom to set
   Tim> these values or have you created entries manually in
   Tim> your emacs init file to customize emacs settings?
   Tim> 
   Tim> I'm assuming you have a line in your .emacs file to load
   Tim> the emacspeak startup stuff - is this at the beginning
   Tim> of your .emacs file?
   Tim> 
   Tim> Is this with all emacspeak settings or just some?
   Tim> 
   Tim> If you restart the server with C-e C-s, do your settings
   Tim> take effect?
   Tim> 
   Tim> Tim
   Tim> 
   Tim> On 9 June 2015 at 16:40, Victor Tsaran
   Tim> <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
   Tim> Hi. I've noticed the below behavior since I started
   Tim> running from the git repository, but didn't want to ask
   Tim> here before looking around. Unfortunately, I did not
   Tim> find any answer, so am posting here... After making the
   Tim> Emacspeak-relatedcustomizations, which are saved in my
   Tim> .emacs file, every time I start Emacs with Emacspeak,
   Tim> the latter ignores Emacspeak-related values from . emacs
   Tim> and reverts to the default ones. For example, if I set
   Tim> my Mac speech rate to 550, Emacspeak reverts to the
   Tim> default one (225) upon startup. I know that my .emacs is
   Tim> in good condition because other values are loaded with
   Tim> no problems.
   Tim> 
   Tim> Where else can I look to troubleshoot this?
   Tim> 
   Tim> Thanks, Victor
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> 
   Tim> -- regards,
   Tim> 
   Tim> Tim
   Tim> 
   Tim> -- Tim Cross
   Tim> 
   Tim>