emacspeak and emacs 22 GTK bug?

["T. V. Raman" <raman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tim, there are many places in emacspeak where a function is
advised more than once.

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Tim> Hi Raman, I think you misunderstood me. I don't want you
    Tim> to grab a pre-built version. I wanted to ask if you
    Tim> wouldn't mind checking the describe function information
    Tim> with the version you have already built from CVS. I'm
    Tim> already working with the package maintainer to see if
    Tim> the problem lies there.
    Tim> 
    Tim> The issue I'm encountering is subtle and is only
    Tim> revealed iff you have extra advice defined for view-file
    Tim> other than emacspeak. Just running emacspeak without any
    Tim> non-emacspeak advice defined does not reveal the problem
    Tim> and therefore would not necessarily show up in a simple
    Tim> test.
    Tim> 
    Tim> All I wanted was some confirmation that the
    Tim> describe-function operation run on view-file in your CVS
    Tim> version of GTK emacs is correctly reporting that the
    Tim> function has been advised. The version I am running is
    Tim> not reporting this correctly on my system and I wanted
    Tim> to verify that yours is correct as this would indicate I
    Tim> have some other issue on my system not related to the
    Tim> CVS sources or the packaged version.
    Tim> 
    Tim> To summerise
    Tim> 
    Tim>  - After starting emacs 22 GTK version and loading
    Tim> emacspeak, do a C-h f view-file. Scroll to the bottom of
    Tim> the output where it should say "This function is advised
    Tim> etc". If it does not, try an apropos on view-file and
    Tim> see if you have an entry for ad-Orig-view-file. Note
    Tim> that at this point, view-file appears to work perfectly
    Tim> fine. If you do see this inconsistency, you will then
    Tim> find if you load my txutils.el utility and repeat the
    Tim> process, both the emacspeak and txutils advice are
    Tim> reported, but now view-file is broken and will generate
    Tim> a backtrace if debug on error is enabled.
    Tim> 
    Tim> If you can do this check, it would be appreciated. If
    Tim> you can't, then don't worry. I will have my download
    Tim> quota renewed in a couple of weeks and will grab a fresh
    Tim> copy of the CVS and build my self to check.
    Tim> 
    Tim> BTW Note that none of this inconsistency in reporting of
    Tim> advice or any of the other issues exist in the non-GTK
    Tim> version, which is built from exactly the same sources.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Tim
    Tim> 
    Tim> T. V. Raman writes:
    >> 
    >> Tim,
    >> 
    >> I dont trust pre-built versions of Emacs, so I'm not going
    >> to pull a particular build of Emacs that you might have
    >> gotten.
    >> 
    >> It looks like you have a bad build as best as I can tell.
    >> 
    >> The trust-worthy means of verifying if there is a problem
    >> with Emacs built against GTK is to:
    >> 
    >> A) Pull the CVS version of Emacs 22 B) ./configure
    >> --with-toolkit=gtk
    >> 
    >> I've done this last week and as you saw, it did not
    >> reproduce the bizarre behavior you're reporting.  I
    >> suggest you write to the person who built the emacs-gtk
    >> that you pulled.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Tim> Hi Raman, I've updated to a later version of emacs 22
    Tim> GTK version (from 1st May) and I'm still getting the
    Tim> same problem. However, I have noticed something else a
    Tim> little odd. I was wondering if you could check the
    Tim> version you have to see if it is the same.
    Tim> 
    Tim> After starting emacs 22 GTK version with emacspeak
    Tim> loaded, if I do a describe function on view-file, it
    Tim> does not mention anything about the function being
    Tim> advised. However, if I do an apropos for view-file,
    Tim> there is a ad-Orig-view-file entry.
    Tim> 
    Tim> If I do the same thing with the non-GTK version, the
    Tim> describe function returns the expected note at the end
    Tim> about the function being advised by emacspeak. So, it
    Tim> looks like something is not right as they should both
    Tim> report exactly the same thing.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Note that view-file works fine until you load another
    Tim> piece of advice on that function. Then you get the
    Tim> max-lisp-eval-depth exceeded error. This does not occur
    Tim> with the non-GTK version.
    Tim> 
    Tim> In my case, this problem arises with my txutils package
    Tim> as it defines some advice on view-file. Note that there
    Tim> are no issues if I load my package without emacspeak. It
    Tim> is only when the two are loaded the error occurs.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Could you start emacs 22 GTK version and just have a
    Tim> look at the describe function for view-file and see if
    Tim> it reports that the function has been advised. If it
    Tim> doesn't, then we either have an issue with emacspeak or
    Tim> with the GTK version of emacs.
    Tim> 
    Tim> thanks,
    Tim> 
    Tim> Tim
    Tim> 
    Tim> P.S. I have also setup an old box and am using this for
    Tim> testing. I'm not loading any other packages apart from
    Tim> emacspeak and my txutils utility. This is to eliminate
    Tim> the chance of the problem being due to some unexpected
    Tim> interaction with another package that is being
    Tim> loaded. I'm trying to get things down to a bare minimum.
    Tim> -- Tim Cross tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Tim> 
    Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
    Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
    Tim> understand what they manage.
    Tim> 
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    Tim> -- Tim Cross tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Tim> 
    Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
    Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
    Tim> understand what they manage.

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