emacspeak and emacs 22 GTK bug?

["T. V. Raman" <raman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here is a simple test case for you to run against your failing
emacs-gtk

In the scracth buffer, evaluate these lines in sequence, and run
M-x foo each time. Notice that the advice gets evaluated and
defined correctly.

(defun foo ()
(interactive)
(message "I'm foo."))
(defadvice foo (after first pre act comp)(message "After foo"))

(defadvice foo (after second pre act comp)(message "son of foo."))


>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Tim> Hi Raman, I think you misunderstood me. I don't want you
    Tim> to grab a pre-built version. I wanted to ask if you
    Tim> wouldn't mind checking the describe function information
    Tim> with the version you have already built from CVS. I'm
    Tim> already working with the package maintainer to see if
    Tim> the problem lies there.
    Tim> 
    Tim> The issue I'm encountering is subtle and is only
    Tim> revealed iff you have extra advice defined for view-file
    Tim> other than emacspeak. Just running emacspeak without any
    Tim> non-emacspeak advice defined does not reveal the problem
    Tim> and therefore would not necessarily show up in a simple
    Tim> test.
    Tim> 
    Tim> All I wanted was some confirmation that the
    Tim> describe-function operation run on view-file in your CVS
    Tim> version of GTK emacs is correctly reporting that the
    Tim> function has been advised. The version I am running is
    Tim> not reporting this correctly on my system and I wanted
    Tim> to verify that yours is correct as this would indicate I
    Tim> have some other issue on my system not related to the
    Tim> CVS sources or the packaged version.
    Tim> 
    Tim> To summerise
    Tim> 
    Tim>  - After starting emacs 22 GTK version and loading
    Tim> emacspeak, do a C-h f view-file. Scroll to the bottom of
    Tim> the output where it should say "This function is advised
    Tim> etc". If it does not, try an apropos on view-file and
    Tim> see if you have an entry for ad-Orig-view-file. Note
    Tim> that at this point, view-file appears to work perfectly
    Tim> fine. If you do see this inconsistency, you will then
    Tim> find if you load my txutils.el utility and repeat the
    Tim> process, both the emacspeak and txutils advice are
    Tim> reported, but now view-file is broken and will generate
    Tim> a backtrace if debug on error is enabled.
    Tim> 
    Tim> If you can do this check, it would be appreciated. If
    Tim> you can't, then don't worry. I will have my download
    Tim> quota renewed in a couple of weeks and will grab a fresh
    Tim> copy of the CVS and build my self to check.
    Tim> 
    Tim> BTW Note that none of this inconsistency in reporting of
    Tim> advice or any of the other issues exist in the non-GTK
    Tim> version, which is built from exactly the same sources.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Tim
    Tim> 
    Tim> T. V. Raman writes:
    >> 
    >> Tim,
    >> 
    >> I dont trust pre-built versions of Emacs, so I'm not going
    >> to pull a particular build of Emacs that you might have
    >> gotten.
    >> 
    >> It looks like you have a bad build as best as I can tell.
    >> 
    >> The trust-worthy means of verifying if there is a problem
    >> with Emacs built against GTK is to:
    >> 
    >> A) Pull the CVS version of Emacs 22 B) ./configure
    >> --with-toolkit=gtk
    >> 
    >> I've done this last week and as you saw, it did not
    >> reproduce the bizarre behavior you're reporting.  I
    >> suggest you write to the person who built the emacs-gtk
    >> that you pulled.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Tim> Hi Raman, I've updated to a later version of emacs 22
    Tim> GTK version (from 1st May) and I'm still getting the
    Tim> same problem. However, I have noticed something else a
    Tim> little odd. I was wondering if you could check the
    Tim> version you have to see if it is the same.
    Tim> 
    Tim> After starting emacs 22 GTK version with emacspeak
    Tim> loaded, if I do a describe function on view-file, it
    Tim> does not mention anything about the function being
    Tim> advised. However, if I do an apropos for view-file,
    Tim> there is a ad-Orig-view-file entry.
    Tim> 
    Tim> If I do the same thing with the non-GTK version, the
    Tim> describe function returns the expected note at the end
    Tim> about the function being advised by emacspeak. So, it
    Tim> looks like something is not right as they should both
    Tim> report exactly the same thing.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Note that view-file works fine until you load another
    Tim> piece of advice on that function. Then you get the
    Tim> max-lisp-eval-depth exceeded error. This does not occur
    Tim> with the non-GTK version.
    Tim> 
    Tim> In my case, this problem arises with my txutils package
    Tim> as it defines some advice on view-file. Note that there
    Tim> are no issues if I load my package without emacspeak. It
    Tim> is only when the two are loaded the error occurs.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Could you start emacs 22 GTK version and just have a
    Tim> look at the describe function for view-file and see if
    Tim> it reports that the function has been advised. If it
    Tim> doesn't, then we either have an issue with emacspeak or
    Tim> with the GTK version of emacs.
    Tim> 
    Tim> thanks,
    Tim> 
    Tim> Tim
    Tim> 
    Tim> P.S. I have also setup an old box and am using this for
    Tim> testing. I'm not loading any other packages apart from
    Tim> emacspeak and my txutils utility. This is to eliminate
    Tim> the chance of the problem being due to some unexpected
    Tim> interaction with another package that is being
    Tim> loaded. I'm trying to get things down to a bare minimum.
    Tim> -- Tim Cross tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Tim> 
    Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
    Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
    Tim> understand what they manage.
    Tim> 
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    Tim> -- Tim Cross tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Tim> 
    Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
    Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
    Tim> understand what they manage.

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