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  • From: John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com>
  • To: Tim Cross <theophilusx AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: "John Covici" (via emacspeak Mailing List) <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net>, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater AT gmail.com>
  • Subject: Re: [Emacspeak] trying to get a decent serverr to work on linux
  • Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 02:31:50 -0400
  • Organization: Covici Computer Systems

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On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:40:25 -0400,
Tim Cross wrote:
>
>
> The IBM TTS or outloud as it is also known, was available from
> oralux.org as part of voxin. I would contact them.
>
> It is possible it was included when you did purchase voxin. What does
> the command
>
> spd-say -L
>
> display?
>
> If it shows either american_english or british_english, then I would
> think you already have it and it is installed. If this is the case, all
> you need to do is make the emacspeak outloud atcleci.so file by running
> make in the servers/linux-outloud directory.
>
>
> John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> writes:
>
> > OK, that is interesting -- I did search and I can't even find a way
> > to download any outloud software -- is it still available anywhere? I
> > will also check out the dectalk software and see what its using.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your suggestions.
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 18:01:58 -0400,
> > Tim Cross wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> There is no straight-forward way to make the vocalizer voices
> >> work. Someone would need to write a speech server for that engine.
> >>
> >> The IBM ViaVoice TTS will likely work on your system provided your
> >> system is correctly configured to still support 32 bit apps. I'm running
> >> Fedora 39, which is a rolling release and therefore running latest
> >> versions of most packages and it runs fine.
> >>
> >> I do recall you mentioned you were running Gentoo, which does make
> >> things a lot harder, but I expect you enjoy that lower level control,
> >> otherwise why run Gentoo! Personally, I don't have the patience and as
> >> I've got older, I'm less interested in fiddling at the OS level (I do
> >> recall the days it would take over 12 hours to compile my Linux kernel!)
> >>
> >> BTW with respect to the software dectalk, which you mentioned suddenly
> >> stopped working. This seems odd. I'm wondering if the issue could be
> >> that your version of the dectalk is built against ALSA rather than
> >> pulseAudio. I had an issue with the software dectalk suddenly failing
> >> due to a bug in recent versions of pipewire that broke sound apps linked
> >> directly against ALSA. While this pipewire bug has since been fixed, it
> >> is possible your running the version with that bug.
> >>
> >> By default, the software dectalk will build against ALSA unless you have
> >> the pulseAudio development files installed. Once you install the
> >> pulseAudio development files, it will build against pulseAudio, which I
> >> think gives better performance than ALSA these days.
> >>
> >> You should be able to tell which sound libs your version is linked
> >> against with the ldd utility on the shared libs to see if they are
> >> linked against pulse.
> >>
> >> John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > I think I have the vocalizer voice -- I don'
> >> > 't think the old ibm ones will work anymore on my software -- any way
> >> > to have both, or to make the vocalizer ones work with emacspeak?
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:00:51 -0400,
> >> > Tim Cross wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Voxin includes two types of voices, the IBM ViaVoice (i.e. outloud)
> >> >> and
> >> >> the Vocalizer voices. Only the IBM ViaVoice Outloud works with
> >> >> emacspeak.
> >> >>
> >> >> When you purchased voxin, which TTS voices did you purchase?
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, have you run the make in the linux-outloud directory and did it
> >> >> run without errors?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am using voxin wiht Emacspeak on Fedora Linux. I also run
> >> >> speech-dispatcher.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, with speech-dispatcher, the voices I'm using are
> >> >> lee-embedded-premium and karen-embedded-premium. These are vocalizer
> >> >> voices and do not work with emacspeak. However, I also purchased the
> >> >> british_english voice, which is the IBM ViaVoice outlouod TTS voice.
> >> >> There is also an american_english for the IBM TTS.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > outloud says
> >> >> > Using SoX
> >> >> > 19No language foundtts
> >> >> > while executing
> >> >> > "load $tclTTS/atcleci.so"
> >> >> > (file "./outloud" line 442)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yet voxin works on speech-dispatcher .
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 05:30:21 -0400,
> >> >> > Devin Prater wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >> >> >> If you want Voxin, you’ll need Outloud, not Vocalizer.
> >> >> >> Devin Prater
> >> >> >> r.d.t.prater AT gmail.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Apr 14, 2024, at 3:44 AM, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing
> >> >> >> > List)
> >> >> >> > <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hi. Well, I was using software dectalk, butt it stopped
> >> >> >> > speaking and
> >> >> >> > c-e c-s did not work, I had to go to another window and kill the
> >> >> >> > emacs
> >> >> >> > process. What I really would like to do is to use my voxin voice
> >> >> >> > which works great with speech dispatcher. I tried to use outloud
> >> >> >> > which I thoughtt would give me that server, but it said no
> >> >> >> > language
> >> >> >> > file found, so I am in a quandry here and any suggestions would
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > appreciated.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am using the gentoo operating system, and voxin is working
> >> >> >> > great
> >> >> >> > with speech dispatcher.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The
> >> >> >> > question is:
> >> >> >> > How do
> >> >> >> > you spend it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > John Covici wb2una
> >> >> >> > covici AT ccs.covici.com
> >> >> >> > Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak AT emacspeak.net
> >> >> >> > To unsubscribe send email to:
> >> >> >> > emacspeak-request AT emacspeak.net with a subject of: unsubscribe
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >> >>
> >>
>

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici AT ccs.covici.com



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