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[Tim Cross <theophilusx AT gmail.com>]

All I can suggest is contacting oralux.org and seeing if they can help
with a copy of IBM TTS.

John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> writes:

> It shows just
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> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:40:25 -0400,
> Tim Cross wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The IBM TTS or outloud as it is also known, was available from
>> oralux.org as part of voxin. I would contact them.
>> 
>> It is possible it was included when you did purchase voxin. What does
>> the command
>> 
>> spd-say -L
>> 
>> display?
>> 
>> If it shows either american_english or british_english, then I would
>> think you already have it and it is installed. If this is the case, all
>> you need to do is make the emacspeak outloud atcleci.so file by running
>> make in the servers/linux-outloud directory.
>> 
>> 
>> John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> writes:
>> 
>> > OK, that is  interesting -- I did search and I can't even find a way
>> > to download any outloud software -- is it still available anywhere?  I
>> > will also check out the dectalk software and see what its using.
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot for your suggestions.
>> >
>> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 18:01:58 -0400,
>> > Tim Cross wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> There is no straight-forward way to make the vocalizer voices
>> >> work. Someone would need to write a speech server for that engine.
>> >> 
>> >> The IBM ViaVoice TTS will likely work on your system provided your
>> >> system is correctly configured to still support 32 bit apps. I'm running
>> >> Fedora 39, which is a rolling release and therefore running latest
>> >> versions of most packages and it runs fine.
>> >> 
>> >> I do recall you mentioned you were running Gentoo, which does make
>> >> things a lot harder, but I expect you enjoy that lower level control,
>> >> otherwise why run Gentoo! Personally, I don't have the patience and as
>> >> I've got older, I'm less interested in fiddling at the OS level (I do
>> >> recall the days it would take over 12 hours to compile my Linux kernel!)
>> >> 
>> >> BTW with respect to the software dectalk, which you mentioned suddenly
>> >> stopped working. This seems odd. I'm wondering if the issue could be
>> >> that your version of the dectalk is built against ALSA rather than
>> >> pulseAudio. I had an issue with the software dectalk suddenly failing
>> >> due to a bug in recent versions of pipewire that broke sound apps linked
>> >> directly against ALSA. While this pipewire bug has since been fixed, it
>> >> is possible your running the version with that bug.
>> >> 
>> >> By default, the software dectalk will build against ALSA unless you have
>> >> the pulseAudio development files installed. Once you install the
>> >> pulseAudio development files, it will build against pulseAudio, which I
>> >> think gives better performance than ALSA these days.
>> >> 
>> >> You should be able to tell which sound libs your version is linked
>> >> against with the ldd utility on the shared libs to see if they are
>> >> linked against pulse. 
>> >> 
>> >> John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > I think I have the vocalizer voice -- I don'
>> >> > 't think the old ibm ones will work anymore on my software -- any way
>> >> > to have both, or to make the vocalizer ones work with emacspeak?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:00:51 -0400,
>> >> > Tim Cross wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Voxin includes two types of voices, the IBM ViaVoice (i.e. outloud) 
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> the Vocalizer voices. Only the IBM ViaVoice Outloud works with
>> >> >> emacspeak.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> When you purchased voxin, which TTS voices did you purchase?
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Also, have you run the make in the linux-outloud directory and did it
>> >> >> run without errors?
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I am using voxin wiht Emacspeak on Fedora Linux. I also run
>> >> >> speech-dispatcher.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> However, with speech-dispatcher, the voices I'm using are
>> >> >> lee-embedded-premium and karen-embedded-premium. These are vocalizer
>> >> >> voices and do not work with emacspeak. However, I also purchased the
>> >> >> british_english voice, which is the IBM ViaVoice outlouod TTS voice.
>> >> >> There is also an american_english for the IBM TTS.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > outloud says
>> >> >> > Using SoX
>> >> >> > 19No language foundtts
>> >> >> >     while executing
>> >> >> >     "load $tclTTS/atcleci.so"
>> >> >> >         (file "./outloud" line 442)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yet voxin works on speech-dispatcher .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 05:30:21 -0400,
>> >> >> > Devin Prater wrote:
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
>> >> >> >> If you want Voxin, you’ll need Outloud, not Vocalizer.
>> >> >> >> Devin Prater
>> >> >> >> r.d.t.prater AT gmail.com
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > On Apr 14, 2024, at 3:44 AM, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing 
>> >> >> >> > List)
>> >> >> >> > <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > Hi.  Well, I was using software dectalk, butt it stopped 
>> >> >> >> > speaking and
>> >> >> >> > c-e c-s did not work, I had to go to another window and kill 
>> >> >> >> > the emacs
>> >> >> >> > process.  What I really would like to do is to use my voxin 
>> >> >> >> > voice
>> >> >> >> > which works great with speech dispatcher.  I tried to use 
>> >> >> >> > outloud
>> >> >> >> > which I thoughtt would give me that server, but it said no 
>> >> >> >> > language
>> >> >> >> > file found, so I am in a quandry here and any suggestions would 
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > appreciated.
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > I am using the gentoo operating system, and voxin is working 
>> >> >> >> > great
>> >> >> >> > with speech dispatcher.
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > -- 
>> >> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The 
>> >> >> >> > question is:
>> >> >> >> > How do
>> >> >> >> > you spend it?
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >         John Covici wb2una
>> >> >> >> >         covici AT ccs.covici.com
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