time-less-p symobol's definition is void?

["T. V. Raman" <tvraman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

it's not in emacspeak-loaddefs.el -- it's in loaddefs.el built by
emacs >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    Tim> hmm. Seems that it doesn't work for me. If I remove (require
    Tim> 'time-date) from my .emacs, then I get the error about
    Tim> function time-less-p definition being void.

    Tim> What is the relevant line from the emacspeak-loaddefs.el file
    Tim> which should lead to time-date being loaded? I'll try to
    Tim> track down why it doesn't get done for me (possibly I'm not
    Tim> using the emacspeak function which results in the autoload or
    Tim> something?

    Tim> tim
>>>>> "tvr" == T V Raman <tvraman@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    tvr> I checked this.  This should not be added because the
    tvr> appropriate autoloads for time-date are present in emacs' own
    tvr> loaddefs.el
>>>>> "tvr" == T V Raman <tvraman@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    tvr> It's quite possible -- I'll add (require 'time-date) to
    tvr> emacpseak-preamble.el -- or alterantively emacspeak-speak.el
    tvr> as appropriate in the next few days
>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    Tim> OK, I should have looked a bit harder. Just for completeness
    Tim> ....

    Tim> The function time-less-p is part of the dite-time package. I
    Tim> had made some changes to my init file which commented out
    Tim> some packages when I was trying to track down the auctex
    Tim> font-lock problem. One of these packages must load something
    Tim> which requires time-date, which is why I had not seen this
    Tim> error before. Once I put

    Tim> (require 'time-date)

    Tim> in my .emacs, I no longer get the error.

    Tim> Raman, do you think a require time-date should be put into
    Tim> the emacspeak-speak.el file to avoid this error for users who
    Tim> may not be loading something else which implicitly loads it?

    Tim> Tim


>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    Tim> Hi All,

    Tim> This one is probably only answerable by Raman, but I figured
    Tim> I'd post it to the list so that if he replies it will be in
    Tim> the archives in case others encounter it.

    Tim> I was running emacspeak 19.0. I've written a driver for the
    Tim> Cepstral voices and decided to update to the latest CVS
    Tim> version of emacspeak before doing a final install/test of my
    Tim> modifications and sending them off to Raman for inclusion in
    Tim> emacspeak.

    Tim> When I start up the new install, I get an error relating to
    Tim> the emacspeak functions which check for new mail and notify
    Tim> you etc. The error says time-less-p definition is void. OK,
    Tim> no real problem, I expect this just means Raman has been
    Tim> doing some mods and they might not quite be complete
    Tim> yet. Just to check, I do a grep of the emacspeak sources I
    Tim> had installed before and find out that time-less-p was used
    Tim> there as well. Now I'm confused as I didn't get this error
    Tim> before (or maybe I just didn't notice it). I do some more
    Tim> checking. I load emacs with the -q -no-site-init and do an
    Tim> apropos for time-less-p. I get no hits, so it seems it is not
    Tim> part of the standard emacs distribution. If I run emacs with
    Tim> -q I get two hits for the apropos search, eldav-time-less-p
    Tim> and tramp-time-less-p, but still no time-less-p.

    Tim> Can anyone tell me where time-less-p is supposed to be
    Tim> defined?

    Tim> Tim

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    tvr> -- Best Regards, --raman

      
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    tvr> -- Best Regards, --raman

      
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