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  • From: Victor Tsaran <vtsaran AT gmail.com>
  • To: covici AT ccs.covici.com
  • Cc: Parham Doustdar <parham90 AT gmail.com>, emacspeak AT emacspeak.net
  • Subject: Re: [Emacspeak] loading emacspeak causes emacs itself to be non functional
  • Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:34:02 -0800

Yep, this is sort of the situation I am in currently.
If you wait a little bit, or just press up and down arrows a few times, Emacspeak may resume speaking. SOmetimes this happens after a few seconds, sometimes it may take 30. You will know that Emacspeak is about to resume its operation when you hear VoiceOver say something like "Emacs is not responding".
Unfortunately, I am not able to figure out how to profile what is happening there.
If you launch "emacs" in Terminal though, using the "emacs -nw" command, everything should work fine. Can you try it?




On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 8:05 PM John Covici <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
So, I have made some progress of a sort -- I wiped out the emacspeak
directtory  and re cloned from git.  Now emacspeak loads successfully,
but it will only speak if I use c-e commands, if I hit the down arror
for instance, nothing happens.  So, how to get things working again?

On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:04:51 -0500,
Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>
> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> Also, if mplayer ends up not being the issue, can you clarify what you mean by “some sort of fatal error”? What sort? :-) Also, any tracebacks?
>
> > On 31 Jan 2024, at 13:40, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your quick response.
> >
> > I did make clean, make confiig and make whenever I changed the
> > emacspeak I was using.  I did tryy to load emacspeak using esc-x
> > load-file, but I got some kind of fatal error when trying to do that.
> > Since this is a mac, would I need mplayer and sox?
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 06:36:08 -0500,
> > Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> >>
> >> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >> Hi John,
> >> There could be many reasons for this, so I’m going to throw a whole bunch of steps at you to see which one works, haha.
> >> First, have you tried running `make clean` and `make` when you either go back to a release or to the git HEAD?
> >> Also, do you have Emacspeak dependencies, notably mplayer and sox installed?
> >> If you do all this, we’ll need to figure out what happens when you load Emacspeak. I’m not sure of the best way to do this given your configuration, but maybe try the emacs -Q that you did before, and do M-: (load-file “~/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el”) or whatever your emacspeak path is, and see if you can read the buffer contents with the errors, maybe from th e*Messages* buffer.
> >> Hope this gives you a few next steps to debug the issue!
> >>
> >>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:28, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone. So, I think this started after upgrading to emacs 29.1.
> >>> What happens is that after emacspeak is loaded emacs does not work --
> >>> escape followed by x types x in the buffer.  c-x followed by b does
> >>> nothing at all.  Many other things don't seem to work as they should.
> >>>
> >>> So, I started on the hunt.  I am using the railway casc out of
> >>> homebrew, but the same thing happens with the original emacs macport.
> >>> So, the first thing I did was from the terrminal typed
> >>> /opt/homebrew/Cellar/emacs-mac/emacs-29.1-mac-10.0/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacx
> >>> -q  to see if it was my settings.  Sure enough, emacs was functioning,
> >>> I knew this because vo read  some things and I could actually hear m-x
> >>> when I typed esc-x .  So, I then fooled around with my .emacs file and
> >>> sure enough, the load of emacspeak was the problem.  I was using
> >>> emacspeak from git and I went back to emacs 59, but no joy.  I am
> >>> stumped after that, so any suggestions as to how to debug further
> >>> would be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks all.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >>> How do
> >>> you spend it?
> >>>
> >>>        John Covici wb2una
> >>>        covici AT ccs.covici.com
> >>> Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak AT emacspeak.net
> >>> To unsubscribe send email to:
> >>> emacspeak-request AT emacspeak.net with a subject of: unsubscribe
> >>
> >> [2  <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>]
> >> Emacspeak discussion list -- emacspeak AT emacspeak.net
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> >
> > --
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >         John Covici wb2una
> >         covici AT ccs.covici.com
>
> [2  <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>]
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