Emacspeak discussion list

[Parham Doustdar <parham90 AT gmail.com>]

Hi John,
You pasted a command earlier in the thread that pointed to the Emacs 
executable in the app that you can use with command line arguments. Going off 
memory, it should be something like /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/emacs. 
You can actually go to the terminal and do something like "cd 
/Applications/Emacs.app" to go inside the app and use the ls command to see 
what's in it.
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> On Feb 1, 2024, at 12:24, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> 
> All I have is an app, so no way to supply any arguments like -nw .
> 
>> On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 00:34:02 -0500,
>> Victor Tsaran wrote:
>> 
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>> Yep, this is sort of the situation I am in currently.
>> If you wait a little bit, or just press up and down arrows a few times,
>> Emacspeak may resume speaking. SOmetimes this happens after a few seconds,
>> sometimes it may take 30. You will know that Emacspeak is about to resume
>> its operation when you hear VoiceOver say something like "Emacs is not
>> responding".
>> Unfortunately, I am not able to figure out how to profile what is happening
>> there.
>> If you launch "emacs" in Terminal though, using the "emacs -nw" command,
>> everything should work fine. Can you try it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 8:05 PM John Covici <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, I have made some progress of a sort -- I wiped out the emacspeak
>>> directtory  and re cloned from git.  Now emacspeak loads successfully,
>>> but it will only speak if I use c-e commands, if I hit the down arror
>>> for instance, nothing happens.  So, how to get things working again?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:04:51 -0500,
>>> Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>> Also, if mplayer ends up not being the issue, can you clarify what you
>>> mean by “some sort of fatal error”? What sort? :-) Also, any tracebacks?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 13:40, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did make clean, make confiig and make whenever I changed the
>>>>> emacspeak I was using.  I did tryy to load emacspeak using esc-x
>>>>> load-file, but I got some kind of fatal error when trying to do that.
>>>>> Since this is a mac, would I need mplayer and sox?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 06:36:08 -0500,
>>>>> Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>> There could be many reasons for this, so I’m going to throw a whole
>>> bunch of steps at you to see which one works, haha.
>>>>>> First, have you tried running `make clean` and `make` when you either
>>> go back to a release or to the git HEAD?
>>>>>> Also, do you have Emacspeak dependencies, notably mplayer and sox
>>> installed?
>>>>>> If you do all this, we’ll need to figure out what happens when you
>>> load Emacspeak. I’m not sure of the best way to do this given your
>>> configuration, but maybe try the emacs -Q that you did before, and do M-:
>>> (load-file “~/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el”) or whatever your
>>> emacspeak path is, and see if you can read the buffer contents with the
>>> errors, maybe from th e*Messages* buffer.
>>>>>> Hope this gives you a few next steps to debug the issue!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:28, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) <
>>> emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi everyone. So, I think this started after upgrading to emacs 29.1.
>>>>>>> What happens is that after emacspeak is loaded emacs does not work --
>>>>>>> escape followed by x types x in the buffer.  c-x followed by b does
>>>>>>> nothing at all.  Many other things don't seem to work as they should.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, I started on the hunt.  I am using the railway casc out of
>>>>>>> homebrew, but the same thing happens with the original emacs macport.
>>>>>>> So, the first thing I did was from the terrminal typed
>>>>>>> 
>>> /opt/homebrew/Cellar/emacs-mac/emacs-29.1-mac-10.0/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacx
>>>>>>> -q  to see if it was my settings.  Sure enough, emacs was
>>> functioning,
>>>>>>> I knew this because vo read  some things and I could actually hear
>>> m-x
>>>>>>> when I typed esc-x .  So, I then fooled around with my .emacs file
>>> and
>>>>>>> sure enough, the load of emacspeak was the problem.  I was using
>>>>>>> emacspeak from git and I went back to emacs 59, but no joy.  I am
>>>>>>> stumped after that, so any suggestions as to how to debug further
>>>>>>> would be appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
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>>> is:
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>>>>>>> you spend it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>       John Covici wb2una
>>>>>>>       covici AT ccs.covici.com
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>>>>> you spend it?
>>>>> 
>>>>>        John Covici wb2una
>>>>>        covici AT ccs.covici.com
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