Emacspeak discussion list

[Robert Melton <lists AT robertmelton.com>]

John--

I am now utterly confused about what version of emacspeak you were using. As 
the pitch shift on quotes has been a standard feature since I have been using 
emacspeak, not sure when it was added. 

As for the rate, change it to whatever you like: C-e d r 

> On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:27, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
> <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> 
> So, I am getting emacspeak to sort of work with a few strange things
> happening.  If I arrow over each character its very slow, as though
> emacspeak suddenly has a much lower speaking rate.  Also, any line
> with a quotation mark, raises the pitch for anything after the
> quotation mark.
> 
> I want to thank everyone for your help on this one.
> 
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 10:27:10 -0500,
> Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>> 
>> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
>> John--
>> 
>> I think I recreated this and it implies two things:
>> 
>> 1. You did not install sox (earlier this was recommended as a solution) 
>> 2. You are not using the recommended swiftmac auditory icon settings
>> 
>> I think if you "brew install sox" it will fix your problem, or if you use 
>> the recommended swiftmac audio icon play it will fix your problem as well.
>> 
>> But, in investigating this I think I found a bug in swiftmac audio icon 
>> playback, so that was a nice bonus! 
>> 
>> I would first just "brew install sox" and see if that gets it working. 
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2024, at 09:35, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
>>> <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, after finding the actual emacs binary and doing -nw, I actually
>>> get some warning about my .emacs file and so I ran with --debug-init
>>> and got the following:
>>> 
>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
>>> make-process(:name nil :buffer nil)
>>>   apply(make-process (:name nil :buffer nil))
>>>     start-process(nil nil nil "play-sample" "button")
>>>  emacspeak-play-auditory-icon(button)
>>>    emacspeak-auditory-icon(button)
>>> emacspeak-sounds-select-theme("/Users/covici/emacspeak/sounds/ogg-chimes/")
>>>   emacspeak()
>>>     (let ((file-name-handler-alist nil)
>>> (load-source-file-function nil)) (load "emacspeak-loaddefs")
>>> (emacspeak))
>>>   (if noninteractive nil (let ((file-name-handler-alist nil)
>>> (load-source-file-function nil)) (load "emacspeak-loaddefs")
>>> (emacspeak)))
>>>   eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*-856885> nil
>>> "/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil t)  ; Reading
>>> at buffer position 2150
>>>   
>>> load-with-code-conversion("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el"
>>> "/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil nil)
>>>   load("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil nil t)
>>>     load-file("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el")
>>>  eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "/Users/covici/.emacs" nil
>>> t)  ; Reading at buffer position 3837
>>>   load-with-code-conversion("/Users/covici/.emacs"
>>> "/Users/covici/.emacs" t t)
>>>   load("~/.emacs" noerror nomessage)
>>>     startup--load-user-init-file(#f(compiled-function () #<bytecode
>>> 0x1569ad0cc53c31>) #f(compiled-function () #<bytecode
>>> -0x1f3c61addc0b5af5>) t)
>>>   command-line()
>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:04:51 -0500,
>>> Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
>>>> Also, if mplayer ends up not being the issue, can you clarify what you 
>>>> mean by “some sort of fatal error”? What sort? :-) Also, any tracebacks?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 13:40, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did make clean, make confiig and make whenever I changed the
>>>>> emacspeak I was using.  I did tryy to load emacspeak using esc-x
>>>>> load-file, but I got some kind of fatal error when trying to do that.
>>>>> Since this is a mac, would I need mplayer and sox?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 06:36:08 -0500,
>>>>> Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>> There could be many reasons for this, so I’m going to throw a whole 
>>>>>> bunch of steps at you to see which one works, haha.
>>>>>> First, have you tried running `make clean` and `make` when you either 
>>>>>> go back to a release or to the git HEAD?
>>>>>> Also, do you have Emacspeak dependencies, notably mplayer and sox 
>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>> If you do all this, we’ll need to figure out what happens when you 
>>>>>> load Emacspeak. I’m not sure of the best way to do this given your 
>>>>>> configuration, but maybe try the emacs -Q that you did before, and do 
>>>>>> M-: (load-file “~/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el”) or whatever 
>>>>>> your emacspeak path is, and see if you can read the buffer contents 
>>>>>> with the errors, maybe from th e*Messages* buffer.
>>>>>> Hope this gives you a few next steps to debug the issue!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:28, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
>>>>>>> <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi everyone. So, I think this started after upgrading to emacs 29.1.
>>>>>>> What happens is that after emacspeak is loaded emacs does not work --
>>>>>>> escape followed by x types x in the buffer.  c-x followed by b does
>>>>>>> nothing at all.  Many other things don't seem to work as they should.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, I started on the hunt.  I am using the railway casc out of
>>>>>>> homebrew, but the same thing happens with the original emacs macport.
>>>>>>> So, the first thing I did was from the terrminal typed
>>>>>>> /opt/homebrew/Cellar/emacs-mac/emacs-29.1-mac-10.0/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacx
>>>>>>> -q  to see if it was my settings.  Sure enough, emacs was functioning,
>>>>>>> I knew this because vo read  some things and I could actually hear m-x
>>>>>>> when I typed esc-x .  So, I then fooled around with my .emacs file and
>>>>>>> sure enough, the load of emacspeak was the problem.  I was using
>>>>>>> emacspeak from git and I went back to emacs 59, but no joy.  I am
>>>>>>> stumped after that, so any suggestions as to how to debug further
>>>>>>> would be appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>>>>>>> How do
>>>>>>> you spend it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      John Covici wb2una
>>>>>>>      covici AT ccs.covici.com
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>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>>>>> How do
>>>>> you spend it?
>>>>> 
>>>>>       John Covici wb2una
>>>>>       covici AT ccs.covici.com
>>>> 
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>>> How do
>>> you spend it?
>>> 
>>>        John Covici wb2una
>>>        covici AT ccs.covici.com
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> -- 
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
> 
>         John Covici wb2una
>         covici AT ccs.covici.com
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