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  • From: "T.V Raman" <raman AT google.com>
  • To: lists AT robertmelton.com
  • Cc: raman AT google.com, emacspeak AT emacspeak.net
  • Subject: Re: [Emacspeak] Swiftmac 2: pre-PR request for testers
  • Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:53:52 -0700

Voice variations are definitely an issue with the so-called "modern
voices".

1. In my experience, using completely different voices, vs variations
on a voice is too distracting.
2. I've compared that in the past to the "ransom note phenomenon"
where one uses glyphs from different fonts on the same page.
3. needless to say, the above is known to be distracting in the visual world.
4. Switching voices like that mid-stream will also break intonation
and likely add latency.
5. Piper (neural-net synthesis ) has "multi-voice models" but they
tehmselves acknowledge that this reduces quality.

But all in all I'm really glad to see you investigating this issue
-- rather than getting stuck in issues of setup.

Robert Melton writes:
> Yep, that is a good idea. I been focusing on trying to just make it work,
> now
> I have to dig into the specific usage of it in emacspeak. But with this
> and
> hopefully my beepcaps fix, I think that will make the implementation
> feature
> complete.
>
> Will still have to work on voices some as the only tools I have to really
> work
> with are:
> - literal voice, as of Swiftmac 2.0 the cost of switching is a non-issue
> - pitch multiplier, between 0.5 and 2.0
> - rate between .1 and 1 (which is a MacOS value of 0% to 100%)
>
> I want to experiment with like using a completely different voice for
> things
> in quotes (like Alex for regular, Samatha for in quotes) and have lots of
> other things I would like to build up on the lisp side once I lock down
> this
> final implementation, so I can work on the more fun tweaky bits.
>
> > On Mar 27, 2024, at 14:16, T.V Raman <raman AT google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Also, re spatialization and latency:
> >
> > 1. You need only spatialize the Notification Stream.
> > 2. So as with Linux, run two server processes,
> > A. The main seaker process, no spatialization, no extra latency
> > B. The notification process, spatialized, some extra latency but wont
> > be noticed, since it's not used much.
> > --
>
> --
> Robert "robertmeta" Melton
> lists AT robertmelton.com

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