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Re: [Emacspeak] "Autospeak" spoken before eve ry mode line – is this a bug?


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  • From: Tim Cross <theophilusx AT gmail.com>
  • To: emacspeak AT emacspeak.net
  • Cc: parham90 AT gmail.com, "T.V Raman" <raman AT google.com>
  • Subject: Re: [Emacspeak] "Autospeak" spoken before eve ry mode line – is this a bug?
  • Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 09:17:33 +1100


Just wanted to re-iterate Raman's suggestion, especially reading
emaspeak sources.

I would also add that experimenting using both the scratch buffer and
ielm mode are extremely useful. As you read through the code, when you
come across code or documentation explanations you are having trouble
grasping, experimenting inside the ielm repl or the scratch buffer can
be extremely enlightening. In fact, I often find a few minutes playhing
with a command or function and/or setting different variable values in
ielm or the scratch buffer is far more productive than lots of google
searching. Problem with google is it cannot tell you which results are
bad advice or just plain wrong. In recent times, I find the rapid
increase in 'noise' has drastically reduced the reliability of google
results.




"\"T.V Raman\"" (via emacspeak Mailing List) <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> writes:

> Ack. The best resource I can point you at are:
>
> 1. Emacspeak sources and docs,
> 2. Emacs docs
>
>
>
> Parham Doustdar writes:
> > Hi Raman,
> > Thanks for the explanation and the changes.
> > You made me realise that I have no clue what goes on in the Makefile.
> I’ll learn from
> > the syntax and look deeper into that, thanks.
> > I also wanted to reassure you that I know everyone is busy, and sending
> an email is not
> > my first reaction to encountering an issue. That is what I hope to
> illustrate by always
> > including the steps that I took to debug or resolve it. When I send an
> email asking
> > something, it’s because either (1) I wonder if I’m understanding the
> intention
> > correctly or (2) my skills and Google haven’t turned up a solution,
> likely because I’m
> > encountering an “unknown unknown”.
> > I’m always very open to learning, so if you or anyone else on the list
> has concrete
> > steps I could take, or resources I could learn from, feel free to share
> – I commit to
> > taking action on getting better at solving my own problems.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > > On 11 Jan 2024, at 18:26, T.V Raman <raman AT google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've changed the default to nil, had it set to nil in my .custom file
> > > which was shadowing the default.
> > >
> > > 1. defcustom declares the variable with its default
> > > 2. make config puts the default into loaddefs.el
> > > 3. Before jumping off to send email, take some time to understand
> > > things, experiment etc.
> > > 4. Just sending me email will likely mean I'll stop responding since
> > > like you I too am busy.
> > > 5.
> > > --



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