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["T.V Raman" <raman AT google.com>]

and never forget M-. for cross-references. You can start with grep,
but grep lie any search will land you in the middle of things; but to
undrstand something --- anything? --- starting at the beginning is a
better idea.



Tim Cross writes:
 > 
 > Just wanted to re-iterate Raman's suggestion, especially reading
 > emaspeak sources.
 > 
 > I would also add that experimenting using both the scratch buffer and
 > ielm mode are extremely useful. As you read through the code, when you
 > come across code or documentation explanations you are having trouble
 > grasping, experimenting inside the ielm repl or the scratch buffer can
 > be extremely enlightening. In fact, I often find a few minutes playhing
 > with a command or function and/or setting different variable values in
 > ielm or the scratch buffer is far more productive than lots of google
 > searching. Problem with google is it cannot tell you which results are
 > bad advice or just plain wrong. In recent times, I find the rapid
 > increase in 'noise' has drastically reduced the reliability of google
 > results.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > "\"T.V Raman\"" (via emacspeak Mailing List) <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> 
 > writes:
 > 
 > > Ack. The best resource I can point  you at are:
 > >
 > > 1. Emacspeak sources and docs,
 > > 2. Emacs docs
 > >
 > >    
 > >
 > > Parham Doustdar writes:
 > >  > Hi Raman,
 > >  > Thanks for the explanation and the changes.
 > >  > You made me realise that I have no clue what goes on in the Makefile. 
 > > I’ll learn from
 > >  > the syntax and look deeper into that, thanks.
 > >  > I also wanted to reassure you that I know everyone is busy, and 
 > > sending an email is not
 > >  > my first reaction to encountering an issue. That is what I hope to 
 > > illustrate by always
 > >  > including the steps that I took to debug or resolve it. When I send 
 > > an email asking
 > >  > something, it’s because either (1) I wonder if I’m understanding the 
 > > intention
 > >  > correctly or (2) my skills and Google haven’t turned up a solution, 
 > > likely because I’m
 > >  > encountering an “unknown unknown”.
 > >  > I’m always very open to learning, so if you or anyone else on the 
 > > list has concrete
 > >  > steps I could take, or resources I could learn from, feel free to 
 > > share – I commit to
 > >  > taking action on getting better at solving my own problems.
 > >  > Thanks.
 > >  > 
 > >  > > On 11 Jan 2024, at 18:26, T.V Raman <raman AT google.com> wrote:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > I've changed the  default to nil, had it set to nil in my .custom 
 > > file
 > >  > > which was shadowing the default.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 1. defcustom declares the variable with its default
 > >  > > 2. make config puts the default into loaddefs.el
 > >  > > 3. Before jumping off to send email, take some time to understand
 > >  > >   things, experiment etc.
 > >  > > 4. Just sending me email will likely mean I'll stop responding since
 > >  > >   like you I too am busy.
 > >  > > 5. 
 > >  > > --

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