Emacspeak discussion list

[John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com>]

I fixed the rate, I had set the character-scale to a lower value
because it used to be hard to hear each character as you arrowed over
it.

The pitch shift only seems to happen in quoted strings -- is that a
feature?

On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 12:54:43 -0500,
Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> 
> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> John--
> 
> I am now utterly confused about what version of emacspeak you were using. 
> As the pitch shift on quotes has been a standard feature since I have been 
> using emacspeak, not sure when it was added. 
> 
> As for the rate, change it to whatever you like: C-e d r 
> 
> > On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:27, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
> > <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> > 
> > So, I am getting emacspeak to sort of work with a few strange things
> > happening.  If I arrow over each character its very slow, as though
> > emacspeak suddenly has a much lower speaking rate.  Also, any line
> > with a quotation mark, raises the pitch for anything after the
> > quotation mark.
> > 
> > I want to thank everyone for your help on this one.
> > 
> > On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 10:27:10 -0500,
> > Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> >> 
> >> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >> John--
> >> 
> >> I think I recreated this and it implies two things:
> >> 
> >> 1. You did not install sox (earlier this was recommended as a solution) 
> >> 2. You are not using the recommended swiftmac auditory icon settings
> >> 
> >> I think if you "brew install sox" it will fix your problem, or if you 
> >> use the recommended swiftmac audio icon play it will fix your problem as 
> >> well.
> >> 
> >> But, in investigating this I think I found a bug in swiftmac audio icon 
> >> playback, so that was a nice bonus! 
> >> 
> >> I would first just "brew install sox" and see if that gets it working. 
> >> 
> >>> On Feb 1, 2024, at 09:35, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
> >>> <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> OK, after finding the actual emacs binary and doing -nw, I actually
> >>> get some warning about my .emacs file and so I ran with --debug-init
> >>> and got the following:
> >>> 
> >>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
> >>> make-process(:name nil :buffer nil)
> >>>   apply(make-process (:name nil :buffer nil))
> >>>     start-process(nil nil nil "play-sample" "button")
> >>>  emacspeak-play-auditory-icon(button)
> >>>    emacspeak-auditory-icon(button)
> >>> emacspeak-sounds-select-theme("/Users/covici/emacspeak/sounds/ogg-chimes/")
> >>>   emacspeak()
> >>>     (let ((file-name-handler-alist nil)
> >>> (load-source-file-function nil)) (load "emacspeak-loaddefs")
> >>> (emacspeak))
> >>>   (if noninteractive nil (let ((file-name-handler-alist nil)
> >>> (load-source-file-function nil)) (load "emacspeak-loaddefs")
> >>> (emacspeak)))
> >>>   eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*-856885> nil
> >>> "/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil t)  ; Reading
> >>> at buffer position 2150
> >>>   
> >>> load-with-code-conversion("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el"
> >>> "/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil nil)
> >>>   load("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil nil t)
> >>>     load-file("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el")
> >>>  eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "/Users/covici/.emacs" nil
> >>> t)  ; Reading at buffer position 3837
> >>>   load-with-code-conversion("/Users/covici/.emacs"
> >>> "/Users/covici/.emacs" t t)
> >>>   load("~/.emacs" noerror nomessage)
> >>>     startup--load-user-init-file(#f(compiled-function () #<bytecode
> >>> 0x1569ad0cc53c31>) #f(compiled-function () #<bytecode
> >>> -0x1f3c61addc0b5af5>) t)
> >>>   command-line()
> >>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:04:51 -0500,
> >>> Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >>>> Also, if mplayer ends up not being the issue, can you clarify what you 
> >>>> mean by “some sort of fatal error”? What sort? :-) Also, any 
> >>>> tracebacks?
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 13:40, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I did make clean, make confiig and make whenever I changed the
> >>>>> emacspeak I was using.  I did tryy to load emacspeak using esc-x
> >>>>> load-file, but I got some kind of fatal error when trying to do that.
> >>>>> Since this is a mac, would I need mplayer and sox?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 06:36:08 -0500,
> >>>>> Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >>>>>> Hi John,
> >>>>>> There could be many reasons for this, so I’m going to throw a whole 
> >>>>>> bunch of steps at you to see which one works, haha.
> >>>>>> First, have you tried running `make clean` and `make` when you 
> >>>>>> either go back to a release or to the git HEAD?
> >>>>>> Also, do you have Emacspeak dependencies, notably mplayer and sox 
> >>>>>> installed?
> >>>>>> If you do all this, we’ll need to figure out what happens when you 
> >>>>>> load Emacspeak. I’m not sure of the best way to do this given your 
> >>>>>> configuration, but maybe try the emacs -Q that you did before, and 
> >>>>>> do M-: (load-file “~/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el”) or 
> >>>>>> whatever your emacspeak path is, and see if you can read the buffer 
> >>>>>> contents with the errors, maybe from th e*Messages* buffer.
> >>>>>> Hope this gives you a few next steps to debug the issue!
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:28, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
> >>>>>>> <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Hi everyone. So, I think this started after upgrading to emacs 29.1.
> >>>>>>> What happens is that after emacspeak is loaded emacs does not work 
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> escape followed by x types x in the buffer.  c-x followed by b does
> >>>>>>> nothing at all.  Many other things don't seem to work as they 
> >>>>>>> should.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> So, I started on the hunt.  I am using the railway casc out of
> >>>>>>> homebrew, but the same thing happens with the original emacs 
> >>>>>>> macport.
> >>>>>>> So, the first thing I did was from the terrminal typed
> >>>>>>> /opt/homebrew/Cellar/emacs-mac/emacs-29.1-mac-10.0/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacx
> >>>>>>> -q  to see if it was my settings.  Sure enough, emacs was 
> >>>>>>> functioning,
> >>>>>>> I knew this because vo read  some things and I could actually hear 
> >>>>>>> m-x
> >>>>>>> when I typed esc-x .  So, I then fooled around with my .emacs file 
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> sure enough, the load of emacspeak was the problem.  I was using
> >>>>>>> emacspeak from git and I went back to emacs 59, but no joy.  I am
> >>>>>>> stumped after that, so any suggestions as to how to debug further
> >>>>>>> would be appreciated.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Thanks all.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question 
> >>>>>>> is:
> >>>>>>> How do
> >>>>>>> you spend it?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>      John Covici wb2una
> >>>>>>>      covici AT ccs.covici.com
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> >>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >>>>> How do
> >>>>> you spend it?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>       John Covici wb2una
> >>>>>       covici AT ccs.covici.com
> >>>> 
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> > you spend it?
> > 
> >         John Covici wb2una
> >         covici AT ccs.covici.com
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How do
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         John Covici wb2una
         covici AT ccs.covici.com