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[John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com>]

OK, thanks.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 13:44:28 -0500,
Robert Melton wrote:
> 
> Yep, so you can tell you are in quotes, but since that is a feature of the 
> speech server (swiftmac, mac) it should have always been working.  No idea 
> why it would start working for you now... I don't think sox would impact 
> that. 
> 
> > On Feb 1, 2024, at 13:37, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
> > <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> > 
> > I fixed the rate, I had set the character-scale to a lower value
> > because it used to be hard to hear each character as you arrowed over
> > it.
> > 
> > The pitch shift only seems to happen in quoted strings -- is that a
> > feature?
> > 
> > On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 12:54:43 -0500,
> > Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> >> 
> >> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >> John--
> >> 
> >> I am now utterly confused about what version of emacspeak you were 
> >> using. As the pitch shift on quotes has been a standard feature since I 
> >> have been using emacspeak, not sure when it was added. 
> >> 
> >> As for the rate, change it to whatever you like: C-e d r 
> >> 
> >>> On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:27, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
> >>> <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> So, I am getting emacspeak to sort of work with a few strange things
> >>> happening.  If I arrow over each character its very slow, as though
> >>> emacspeak suddenly has a much lower speaking rate.  Also, any line
> >>> with a quotation mark, raises the pitch for anything after the
> >>> quotation mark.
> >>> 
> >>> I want to thank everyone for your help on this one.
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, 01 Feb 2024 10:27:10 -0500,
> >>> Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >>>> John--
> >>>> 
> >>>> I think I recreated this and it implies two things:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 1. You did not install sox (earlier this was recommended as a 
> >>>> solution) 
> >>>> 2. You are not using the recommended swiftmac auditory icon settings
> >>>> 
> >>>> I think if you "brew install sox" it will fix your problem, or if you 
> >>>> use the recommended swiftmac audio icon play it will fix your problem 
> >>>> as well.
> >>>> 
> >>>> But, in investigating this I think I found a bug in swiftmac audio 
> >>>> icon playback, so that was a nice bonus! 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I would first just "brew install sox" and see if that gets it working. 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Feb 1, 2024, at 09:35, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing List) 
> >>>>> <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> OK, after finding the actual emacs binary and doing -nw, I actually
> >>>>> get some warning about my .emacs file and so I ran with --debug-init
> >>>>> and got the following:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
> >>>>> make-process(:name nil :buffer nil)
> >>>>>  apply(make-process (:name nil :buffer nil))
> >>>>>    start-process(nil nil nil "play-sample" "button")
> >>>>> emacspeak-play-auditory-icon(button)
> >>>>>   emacspeak-auditory-icon(button)
> >>>>> emacspeak-sounds-select-theme("/Users/covici/emacspeak/sounds/ogg-chimes/")
> >>>>>  emacspeak()
> >>>>>    (let ((file-name-handler-alist nil)
> >>>>> (load-source-file-function nil)) (load "emacspeak-loaddefs")
> >>>>> (emacspeak))
> >>>>>  (if noninteractive nil (let ((file-name-handler-alist nil)
> >>>>> (load-source-file-function nil)) (load "emacspeak-loaddefs")
> >>>>> (emacspeak)))
> >>>>>  eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*-856885> nil
> >>>>> "/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil t)  ; Reading
> >>>>> at buffer position 2150
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> load-with-code-conversion("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el"
> >>>>> "/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil nil)
> >>>>>  load("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el" nil nil t)
> >>>>>    load-file("/Users/covici/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el")
> >>>>> eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "/Users/covici/.emacs" nil
> >>>>> t)  ; Reading at buffer position 3837
> >>>>>  load-with-code-conversion("/Users/covici/.emacs"
> >>>>> "/Users/covici/.emacs" t t)
> >>>>>  load("~/.emacs" noerror nomessage)
> >>>>>    startup--load-user-init-file(#f(compiled-function () #<bytecode
> >>>>> 0x1569ad0cc53c31>) #f(compiled-function () #<bytecode
> >>>>> -0x1f3c61addc0b5af5>) t)
> >>>>>  command-line()
> >>>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:04:51 -0500,
> >>>>> Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >>>>>> Also, if mplayer ends up not being the issue, can you clarify what 
> >>>>>> you mean by “some sort of fatal error”? What sort? :-) Also, any 
> >>>>>> tracebacks?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 13:40, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick response.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I did make clean, make confiig and make whenever I changed the
> >>>>>>> emacspeak I was using.  I did tryy to load emacspeak using esc-x
> >>>>>>> load-file, but I got some kind of fatal error when trying to do 
> >>>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>> Since this is a mac, would I need mplayer and sox?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 06:36:08 -0500,
> >>>>>>> Parham Doustdar (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> >>>>>>>> Hi John,
> >>>>>>>> There could be many reasons for this, so I’m going to throw a 
> >>>>>>>> whole bunch of steps at you to see which one works, haha.
> >>>>>>>> First, have you tried running `make clean` and `make` when you 
> >>>>>>>> either go back to a release or to the git HEAD?
> >>>>>>>> Also, do you have Emacspeak dependencies, notably mplayer and sox 
> >>>>>>>> installed?
> >>>>>>>> If you do all this, we’ll need to figure out what happens when you 
> >>>>>>>> load Emacspeak. I’m not sure of the best way to do this given your 
> >>>>>>>> configuration, but maybe try the emacs -Q that you did before, and 
> >>>>>>>> do M-: (load-file “~/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-setup.el”) or 
> >>>>>>>> whatever your emacspeak path is, and see if you can read the 
> >>>>>>>> buffer contents with the errors, maybe from th e*Messages* buffer.
> >>>>>>>> Hope this gives you a few next steps to debug the issue!
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:28, John Covici (via emacspeak Mailing 
> >>>>>>>>> List) <emacspeak AT emacspeak.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone. So, I think this started after upgrading to emacs 
> >>>>>>>>> 29.1.
> >>>>>>>>> What happens is that after emacspeak is loaded emacs does not 
> >>>>>>>>> work --
> >>>>>>>>> escape followed by x types x in the buffer.  c-x followed by b 
> >>>>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>>> nothing at all.  Many other things don't seem to work as they 
> >>>>>>>>> should.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> So, I started on the hunt.  I am using the railway casc out of
> >>>>>>>>> homebrew, but the same thing happens with the original emacs 
> >>>>>>>>> macport.
> >>>>>>>>> So, the first thing I did was from the terrminal typed
> >>>>>>>>> /opt/homebrew/Cellar/emacs-mac/emacs-29.1-mac-10.0/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacx
> >>>>>>>>> -q  to see if it was my settings.  Sure enough, emacs was 
> >>>>>>>>> functioning,
> >>>>>>>>> I knew this because vo read  some things and I could actually 
> >>>>>>>>> hear m-x
> >>>>>>>>> when I typed esc-x .  So, I then fooled around with my .emacs 
> >>>>>>>>> file and
> >>>>>>>>> sure enough, the load of emacspeak was the problem.  I was using
> >>>>>>>>> emacspeak from git and I went back to emacs 59, but no joy.  I am
> >>>>>>>>> stumped after that, so any suggestions as to how to debug further
> >>>>>>>>> would be appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks all.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The 
> >>>>>>>>> question is:
> >>>>>>>>> How do
> >>>>>>>>> you spend it?
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>     John Covici wb2una
> >>>>>>>>>     covici AT ccs.covici.com
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> >>>>>>> is:
> >>>>>>> How do
> >>>>>>> you spend it?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>      John Covici wb2una
> >>>>>>>      covici AT ccs.covici.com
> >>>>>> 
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> >>>>> How do
> >>>>> you spend it?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>       John Covici wb2una
> >>>>>       covici AT ccs.covici.com
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> >>> How do
> >>> you spend it?
> >>> 
> >>>        John Covici wb2una
> >>>        covici AT ccs.covici.com
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> > How do
> > you spend it?
> > 
> >         John Covici wb2una
> >         covici AT ccs.covici.com
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> 

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Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici wb2una
         covici AT ccs.covici.com