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["T.V Raman" <raman AT google.com>]

I'd find a speech-server  tat turns off a screenreader with which it
has no relationship strange indeed; even if the Mac server does that
--- something I'd find surprizing --- I'd stil suggest thinking
through this carefully before apeing that behavior.

For instance, you can run the spech-server outside Emacspeak, e.g. to
test the speech-server stand-alone. The speech-servver turning off
other Assistive Tech in that situation would be surprizing   to the
user.



"Robert Melton" (via emacspeak Mailing List) writes:
 > Pitch shift should work on caps, I will confirm it.  
 > 
 > The automatically turning off, I will look at the mac server for how they 
 > do that in python, I simply have my voiceover automatically turn off for 
 > emacs, having it naturally turn off would be much better. 
 > 
 > The punctuation work perfect for me, read out dash dash.  
 > 
 > > On Jan 6, 2024, at 18:28, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
 > > 
 > > Well, I installed successfully, a few questions./problems remain.
 > > 
 > > I was hoping for capitalization to be available, by pitch changes, am
 > > I mistaken?  Also, voiceover is on in the emacspeak window -- isn't it
 > > supposed to be off in that window only automatically?  I am pretty
 > > sure it works that way with the default serverr.  I will also have to
 > > see if I am doing something wrong with my punctuation settings,
 > > when I was trying to reply to your email, I was not hearing any
 > > dashes  in a line like the following:
 > > --text follows this line--
 > > 
 > > Otherwise, seems pretty good, I am even getting sounds!!
 > > 
 > > Thanks for all yyour hard work.
 > > 
 > > On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 14:29:14 -0500,
 > > Robert Melton wrote:
 > >> 
 > >> I meant to type restart, not resetr. 
 > >> 
 > >> Also, you will have to set swiftmac as you dtk-program 
 > >> 
 > >>  (setq dtk-program "swiftmac")
 > >> 
 > >> or however you set yours. 
 > >> 
 > >>> On Jan 3, 2024, at 13:38, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
 > >>> 
 > >>> OK, thanks -- what do you mean by "reset emacs"?
 > >>> 
 > >>> On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 13:09:49 -0500,
 > >>> Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
 > >>>> 
 > >>>> [1  <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
 > >>>> It is in the current emacspeak git version, so will go out with next 
 > >>>> major release.
 > >>>> 
 > >>>> If you don't want to wait, or want a more cutting edge version then 
 > >>>> use:
 > >>>> 
 > >>>> https://github.com/robertmeta/swiftmac
 > >>>> 
 > >>>> after you get it just "make install" to build and install from the 
 > >>>> root directory, then reset emacs.
 > >>>> 
 > >>>> README.md and some project aspects will undergo rapid change in the 
 > >>>> next few days, as it now has shifted purpose a bit. 
 > >>>> 
 > >>>> 
 > >>>>> On Jan 3, 2024, at 12:52, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
 > >>>>> 
 > >>>>> So, where do I get this serverr exactly and what version of emacs and
 > >>>>> emacspeak are required?  I do have xcode here, so is that what is
 > >>>>> needed to compile this?
 > >>>>> 
 > >>>>> Thanks a lot.
 > >>>>> 
 > >>>>> On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 10:59:43 -0500,
 > >>>>> Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> [1  <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
 > >>>>>> Hey swiftmac users! 
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> I contributed swiftmac to emacspeak proper at the last possible 
 > >>>>>> moment of 2023, because I wanted to do it last year. :) 
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> That said, I heard your feedback and while T.V. has been awesome 
 > >>>>>> enough to just accept my patches as long as as I stay to my 
 > >>>>>> Swiftmac subtree (thanks again!)... I understand that you want to 
 > >>>>>> continue using stable releases of Emacspeak!
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> So, I am tweaking my Swiftmac repo to be the cutting edge version, 
 > >>>>>> and place to track bug reports.  When it hits nice stable points or 
 > >>>>>> critical bug fixes I will be pushing those up to emacspeak. 
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> Still puzzling out the best way to accomplish this, but for now I 
 > >>>>>> will just make the changes to emacspeak by hand when the code gets 
 > >>>>>> to a point I think it should be moved over. 
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> Bugs still exist, report them at 
 > >>>>>> https://github.com/robertmeta/swiftmac/issues
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> I will still be creating fat-binaries from time to time to support 
 > >>>>>> the users who can not run swift to build the project.
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> Version 2, the rewrite using the newer mac audio subsystem will be 
 > >>>>>> up around the end of the month under the v2 branch, but it is 
 > >>>>>> likely not going to be easy to use day to day unless you want to 
 > >>>>>> contribute and know swift.
 > >>>>>> 
 > >>>>>> Thanks everyone for the support. 
 > >>>>>> [2  <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>]
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 > >>>>> 
 > >>>>> -- 
 > >>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question 
 > >>>>> is:
 > >>>>> How do
 > >>>>> you spend it?
 > >>>>> 
 > >>>>>       John Covici wb2una
 > >>>>>       covici AT ccs.covici.com
 > >>>> 
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 > >>> -- 
 > >>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
 > >>> How do
 > >>> you spend it?
 > >>> 
 > >>>        John Covici wb2una
 > >>>        covici AT ccs.covici.com
 > >> 
 > >> 
 > > 
 > > -- 
 > > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
 > > How do
 > > you spend it?
 > > 
 > >         John Covici wb2una
 > >         covici AT ccs.covici.com
 > 
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