Emacspeak discussion list

[John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com>]

I don't think it was the speech server turning off voiceover in the
emacspeak window, but something about the emacs build itself did that
when using tthe previous dtk-program.

On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 23:31:28 -0500,
T.V Raman wrote:
> 
> I'd find a speech-server  tat turns off a screenreader with which it
> has no relationship strange indeed; even if the Mac server does that
> --- something I'd find surprizing --- I'd stil suggest thinking
> through this carefully before apeing that behavior.
> 
> For instance, you can run the spech-server outside Emacspeak, e.g. to
> test the speech-server stand-alone. The speech-servver turning off
> other Assistive Tech in that situation would be surprizing   to the
> user.
> 
> 
> 
> "Robert Melton" (via emacspeak Mailing List) writes:
>  > Pitch shift should work on caps, I will confirm it.  
>  > 
>  > The automatically turning off, I will look at the mac server for how 
> they do that in python, I simply have my voiceover automatically turn off 
> for emacs, having it naturally turn off would be much better. 
>  > 
>  > The punctuation work perfect for me, read out dash dash.  
>  > 
>  > > On Jan 6, 2024, at 18:28, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > Well, I installed successfully, a few questions./problems remain.
>  > > 
>  > > I was hoping for capitalization to be available, by pitch changes, am
>  > > I mistaken?  Also, voiceover is on in the emacspeak window -- isn't it
>  > > supposed to be off in that window only automatically?  I am pretty
>  > > sure it works that way with the default serverr.  I will also have to
>  > > see if I am doing something wrong with my punctuation settings,
>  > > when I was trying to reply to your email, I was not hearing any
>  > > dashes  in a line like the following:
>  > > --text follows this line--
>  > > 
>  > > Otherwise, seems pretty good, I am even getting sounds!!
>  > > 
>  > > Thanks for all yyour hard work.
>  > > 
>  > > On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 14:29:14 -0500,
>  > > Robert Melton wrote:
>  > >> 
>  > >> I meant to type restart, not resetr. 
>  > >> 
>  > >> Also, you will have to set swiftmac as you dtk-program 
>  > >> 
>  > >>  (setq dtk-program "swiftmac")
>  > >> 
>  > >> or however you set yours. 
>  > >> 
>  > >>> On Jan 3, 2024, at 13:38, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>  > >>> 
>  > >>> OK, thanks -- what do you mean by "reset emacs"?
>  > >>> 
>  > >>> On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 13:09:49 -0500,
>  > >>> Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>  > >>>> 
>  > >>>> [1  <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
>  > >>>> It is in the current emacspeak git version, so will go out with 
> next major release.
>  > >>>> 
>  > >>>> If you don't want to wait, or want a more cutting edge version then 
> use:
>  > >>>> 
>  > >>>> https://github.com/robertmeta/swiftmac
>  > >>>> 
>  > >>>> after you get it just "make install" to build and install from the 
> root directory, then reset emacs.
>  > >>>> 
>  > >>>> README.md and some project aspects will undergo rapid change in the 
> next few days, as it now has shifted purpose a bit. 
>  > >>>> 
>  > >>>> 
>  > >>>>> On Jan 3, 2024, at 12:52, John Covici <covici AT ccs.covici.com> 
> wrote:
>  > >>>>> 
>  > >>>>> So, where do I get this serverr exactly and what version of emacs 
> and
>  > >>>>> emacspeak are required?  I do have xcode here, so is that what is
>  > >>>>> needed to compile this?
>  > >>>>> 
>  > >>>>> Thanks a lot.
>  > >>>>> 
>  > >>>>> On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 10:59:43 -0500,
>  > >>>>> Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> [1  <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
>  > >>>>>> Hey swiftmac users! 
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> I contributed swiftmac to emacspeak proper at the last possible 
> moment of 2023, because I wanted to do it last year. :) 
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> That said, I heard your feedback and while T.V. has been awesome 
> enough to just accept my patches as long as as I stay to my Swiftmac 
> subtree (thanks again!)... I understand that you want to continue using 
> stable releases of Emacspeak!
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> So, I am tweaking my Swiftmac repo to be the cutting edge 
> version, and place to track bug reports.  When it hits nice stable points 
> or critical bug fixes I will be pushing those up to emacspeak. 
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> Still puzzling out the best way to accomplish this, but for now I 
> will just make the changes to emacspeak by hand when the code gets to a 
> point I think it should be moved over. 
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> Bugs still exist, report them at 
> https://github.com/robertmeta/swiftmac/issues
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> I will still be creating fat-binaries from time to time to 
> support the users who can not run swift to build the project.
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> Version 2, the rewrite using the newer mac audio subsystem will 
> be up around the end of the month under the v2 branch, but it is likely not 
> going to be easy to use day to day unless you want to contribute and know 
> swift.
>  > >>>>>> 
>  > >>>>>> Thanks everyone for the support. 
>  > >>>>>> [2  <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>]
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>  > >>>>> you spend it?
>  > >>>>> 
>  > >>>>>       John Covici wb2una
>  > >>>>>       covici AT ccs.covici.com
>  > >>>> 
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>  > >>> 
>  > >>>        John Covici wb2una
>  > >>>        covici AT ccs.covici.com
>  > >> 
>  > >> 
>  > > 
>  > > -- 
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>  > > 
>  > >         John Covici wb2una
>  > >         covici AT ccs.covici.com
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         John Covici wb2una
         covici AT ccs.covici.com